No more S75

[whitex]

This could be just another end of quarter sales lever. Tesla has gotten rid or RWD Model S in the past, only to bring it back. Maybe next month you'll need to a referral to get RWD, like what they did with free supercharging.

 

[FutureShock]

I was driving home and some kid pointed at me, laughed and shouted "Only losers drive 60s!"

Punk

And you didn't run him over? Sad.

Remember, man... 'it takes a village'.
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[brianman]

The picture doesn't match the topic. There is no Signature Model S that is AWD or 75 kWh.

 

[Jeff4155]

I think all of this has to do with the Model 3 slotting in at the lower price end and to be able to justify the price difference between 3 and S

 

[brianman]

I think all of this has to do with the Model 3 slotting in at the lower price end and to be able to justify the price difference between 3 and S

... or they have no need for the lower end Model S to "onboard" people to EVs with the Model 3 available*.

* Yes, I'm aware "available" is a bit generously phrased.

 

[vigge50]

... or they have no need for the lower end Model S to "onboard" people to EVs with the Model 3 available*.

* Yes, I'm aware "available" is a bit generously phrased.

As some people here in Europe have report that there price have been cut it probably means that 75D will drop in price wish would m@k3 the price difference between Model S and Model 3 more justify.

 

[FutureShock]

One person in Sweden that [is] waiting on his Model S 75D have [had] his price reduced by little less than $5000 so I expect a price drop on 75D.

...or 75D will be replaced by a similarly priced 85D?

I would definitely take an 85D with no price drop (i.e. same price as 75D) over a 75D with the price cut to 75RWD levels.

IOW, I'd take the range, not the money, thanks.

And that'd probably be a better differentiator for the Model S over the Model 3 overall. After all, AWD and air suspension options are coming for the M3. And the M3 with long-range batt pack outranges the 75D very handily, while being quite a bit cheaper.

It'd be a cleaner splitting-up-of-car-lines for Tesla to do the 85D-for-same-price-as-75D thing as opposed to eventual 'free AWD' for a still-vulnerable-to-M3-sales-cannibalization 75D. IOW, AWD isn't really the main issue, range and price are.

Of course, in an ideal world, you'd soon see an 85D for the price of a 75RWD.

THAT would fight off Model 3 sales cannibalization pretty nicely and make the entry-level Model S a hot buy (but Elon's accountants would probably go into cardiac arrest, perhaps rightly so).
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[FutureShock]

Not sure what you mean by "outpaces." The updated 75s are fast.

I didn't say "outpaces". I said outranges.

definition: Outranges
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[OBX John]

I'd really like to drive the 75 with the added power - it took me a while to get used to the AWD feeling in our 100D. The steering is much more pure on our 75, just wish it was faster.

 

[Ross9733]

As some people here in Europe have report that there price have been cut it probably means that 75D will drop in price wish would m@k3 the price difference between Model S and Model 3 more justify.

I am awaiting delivery of a 75D next week. Can you delay your delivery in hope of getting the price reduction. Kind of stupid for tesla to discount the European orders before making any type of announcement.

 

[R.S]

As some people here in Europe have report that there price have been cut it probably means that 75D will drop in price wish would m@k3 the price difference between Model S and Model 3 more justify.

Prices in Europe are extremely high right now, compared to the US. Europe had quite a few price increases when the Dollar increased over the Euro, but they didn't really readjust so far. A 100D with EAP, PUP, nice interior and a color is about $126k before taxes and incentives in Germany and just $108k in the US, before taxes and incentives. So some adjustment would definitely be necessary.

 

[vigge50]

Prices in Europe are extremely high right now, compared to the US. Europe had quite a few price increases when the Dollar increased over the Euro, but they didn't really readjust so far. A 100D with EAP, PUP, nice interior and a color is about $126k before taxes and incentives in Germany and just $108k in the US, before taxes and incentives. So some adjustment would definitely be necessary.

Yes, i do expect a price cut because of this but I believe that they will wait until October after they have done the end of quarter push. This drop I believe is just something that come through a few days to early.

For my earlier post, I don’t like apples new keyboard on iPad there you get numbers and letters if you drag down the keys....

 

[ishareit]

How soon would Tesla announce a price drop or capacity increase or bundling PUP after Sunday, if any of these is supposed to happen?

 

[number12]

How soon would Tesla announce a price drop or capacity increase or bundling PUP after Sunday, if any of these is supposed to happen?

Usually the day after your car is delivered.

 

[vigge50]

How soon would Tesla announce a price drop or capacity increase or bundling PUP after Sunday, if any of these is supposed to happen?

I would expect it to happened at the same time as it’s better they upgrade the design studio one time then several days in a row. Now they can of course wait but to increase the starting price for just a few weeks seams very strange.

 

[deonb]

Older P85's could become valued classics. AWD is awesome, but there are those who cherish RWD performance dynamics.

Also, frunk! Those of us with older P85's will always be able to say: Mine is bigger than yours.

 

[Skotty]

Also, frunk! Those of us with older P85's will always be able to say: Mine is bigger than yours.

Indeed. The old frunk (I have one!) is quite spacious and useful. I worry the newer smaller ones may be hurting the argument about how much available space there can be in an EV.

 

[Skotty]

Especially the ones with coil suspensions! ;-)

Mine has coils. Is that favored by some? The air suspension doesn't really seem worth it to me, and just so happens the CPO I got has coils.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

Yeah, on the Model X the frunk is a bit better than on the current Model S, but I still miss the old big frunk at times. It was so nice.

Now, I like AWD more than a big trunk, mind you.

 

[SeminoleFSU]

Mine has coils. Is that favored by some? The air suspension doesn't really seem worth it to me, and just so happens the CPO I got has coils.

There's a pretty extensive thread on this that dates back the + suspension models... In a nutshell the coils should handle better than air without +, but I think the + handles better than the coils. However, cars with coils can be upgraded fairly easily/cheaply to match the + handling. Also less stuff to break (air suspension problems = expensive)