We have been over this, the Tesla numbers are complete bunk and were discredited.
No- we have not.
We've been over a claim that one guy who apparently runs a company that specifically spits out negative reports while he works for lawyers that sue car companies said that about the NHTSA numbers by discarding the vast majority of the NHTSAs data.
I've not seen anyone "discredit" Teslas own, more recent, numbers, other than comments like Daniels that just dismiss them without any counter-evidence.
Again though it appears to come down to "I won't fully trust a system that specifically tells me in the owners manual, and even when I turn the thing on in the car
not to fully trust it"
To which I say- good. you're not supposed to. You're supposed to
pay attention while driving even on AP.
That's the point of it being a
driver aid
They should have a third party who actually understands statistics analyze that data. I find it very suspicious that they don’t compare cars with autopilot installed vs. cars without autopilot installed. The problem with their analysis is they don’t try to correct for the fact that people are more likely to use autopilot on certain types of roads.
Here's their Q1 2019 numbers-
In the 1st quarter, we registered one accident for every 2.87 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot, we registered one accident for every 1.76 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 436,000 miles.
"all cars" is 1 accident every 436k miles.
So Teslas, even without autopilot, crash ~4 times less often than cars in general... and ~6 times less often with AP engaged.
You can absolutely quibble over not breaking out stats by road type- but not the
fact there's no analysis showing the modern Tesla fleet as not being
significantly safer than average
