Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

[Drew57]

Charges for about 45-60 seconds, then stops. Then shows the schedule in the app.

I've done quite a bit of testing about what happens under various conditions. For example if I plug in early, say 2pm, it behaves the same - charges for a minute or so, then stops. Then, around 5pm but sometimes a bit earlier, the schedule will show in the app. So there's no actual need to delay plugging in until after 5pm.

Very strange, my charger is set the same as yours 'dumb' & plugged in but always charges immediately & doesn't stop. It never did this prior to two weeks ago.

I will have to start scheduling charges via the Zappi 23.30-05.30 until Octopus find a solution (or other Zappi users on here advise)

 

[yessuz]

I’m not sure if this is good or not. On Go I have 4 hours to charge. I usually manage to get what I need during this window. If not, I will top up the next night. It’s simple, and works ok.

just a quick question - how do you manage to fit your charging in 4 hrs? adjust charge level on tesla app?

 

[Drew57]

just a quick question - how do you manage to fit your charging in 4 hrs? adjust charge level on tesla app?

Yes, a 7kW charge adds about 10% per hour, ie for 4 hours adjust the Tesla charge slider by +40% from current SOC. It will then stop before the peak rate.

 

[PaulMD]

Very strange, my charger is set the same as yours 'dumb' & plugged in but always charges immediately & doesn't stop. It never did this prior to two weeks ago.

I will have to start scheduling charges via the Zappi 23.30-05.30 until Octopus find a solution (or other Zappi users on here advise)

Mine was the same due to the issues last weekend, I had to logout of the app and re-add it all, (thus renewing tesla token) and all is fine again.

 

[goRt]

Yes, a 7kW charge adds about 4% per hour, ie for 4 hours adjust the Tesla charge slider by +40% from current SOC. It will then stop before the peak rate.

I think you mean 7kW adds about 10% per hour

 

[Drew57]

I think you mean 7kW adds about 10% per hour

Yes, corrected thanks

 

[fancealot]

Yes, a 7kW charge adds about 10% per hour, ie for 4 hours adjust the Tesla charge slider by +40% from current SOC. It will then stop before the peak rate.

This is why I needed go faster 5 hours as mine would frequerntly go into the expensive rate for half an hour or so on the 4 hour go, should have no issues now with the 6 hour IO.

 

[browellm]

Worth noting, if you are a "big charger", you'll frequently find yourself getting extra off peak slots. I've had several evenings of 8, 8.5 and 9 hours off peak recently.

 

[Tenatious]

Just swapped over to intelligent as my Go tariff ran out

Got the app set up and the test charge worked fine but it now seems to be constantly waking my car up. Is this normal? I know people at the start of this thread has issues. It seems to be sleeping for an hour and then waking up for a while. Slept fine until IO was added. I have no other apps keeping it awake. The yellow bar in the graph was the test charge.

 

[fancealot]

Yes this is a bug with IO right now, when not charing go into your intellighent octopus settings (little man in the top corner of the app) scroll to the bottom, and turn off smart charging tab.

 

[yessuz]

Just swapped over to intelligent as my Go tariff ran out

Got the app set up and the test charge worked fine but it now seems to be constantly waking my car up. Is this normal? I know people at the start of this thread has issues. It seems to be sleeping for an hour and then waking up for a while. Slept fine until IO was added. I have no other apps keeping it awake. The yellow bar in the graph was the test charge.

Same to me! I am trying to understand wtf..

 

[yessuz]

Ok, here's a quick question:
I usually have it on the Scheduled charging, starting 0:30. As this is/was Octopus Go tarrif.

But how to set up charging the car with IO?
Should I leave it on scheduled or leave in standard charging?

 

[Curlywurly]

Good question and same as I was going to ask. I set up intelligent Octopus yesterday and all seemed to go fine plus I could see the schedules IO times it decide in the app. I also disabled scheduled and off peak charging in the Tesla app, also as I read that the IO software disregards all this anyway. Woke up this morning and no charging had happened - well it hadn’t reached 80% - which is what I set it to and pretty sure no charge added. Today I changed the Tesla app location settings to always connected. Let’s see what happens tonight.

 

[fancealot]

Turn off all scheduling in the car or on your charger and alow IO to do the scheduling charges.

Also, to allow car to sleep once unplugged and driven turn off the smart charging feature on the Octopus app, it stops the car from staying awake.

 

[yessuz]

Turn off all scheduling in the car or on your charger and alow IO to do the scheduling charges.

Also, to allow car to sleep once unplugged and driven turn off the smart charging feature on the Octopus app, it stops the car from staying awake.

but it defies all the purpose of IO.. enable/disable smart charging.
If I understand it correctly, IO has a preferable (new) Go tariff (7.50p) from 23:30 to 5:30? so in essence I can disable smart charging in app and use the better tariff during these hours? so in the end of the day it would behave as go faster.... am I right here?

 

[browellm]

Read the thread chaps. All the information you need is in here.

 

[browellm]

but it defies all the purpose of IO.. enable/disable smart charging.

You turn off all the car and charger based smart features. IO does the "smart" stuff.

IO has a preferable (new) Go tariff (7.50p) from 23:30 to 5:30? so in essence I can disable smart charging in app and use the better tariff during these hours? so in the end of the day it would behave as go faster.... am I right here?

That's against the T&C's of the tariff. In theory Octopus could chuck you off the tariff for signing up to it then perma-disabling their smart charging from the app. Whether they would is another matter.

But more than that why would you want to do it? I'm getting loads of extra HH off peak slots from Octopus that are outside of the guaranteed window, just by letting them control the charge. Yesterday it went all the way through to 9:30am at 5p.

 

[fancealot]

but it defies all the purpose of IO.. enable/disable smart charging.
SNIP

It's a bug with the handshake between the app and the car which stops it sleeping, this is still a beta product (Much like go is classed as beta) so it's not 100% foolproof yet, but it'll come!

 

[yessuz]

You turn off all the car and charger based smart features. IO does the "smart" stuff.


That's against the T&C's of the tariff. In theory Octopus could chuck you off the tariff for signing up to it then perma-disabling their smart charging from the app. Whether they would is another matter.

But more than that why would you want to do it? I'm getting loads of extra HH off peak slots from Octopus that are outside of the guaranteed window, just by letting them control the charge. Yesterday it went all the way through to 9:30am at 5p.

well, I am annoyed that currently it's bugged out and it prevents my car from sleeping.

of course, once I identify if that's really the case, I can then try to play with the app and time slots...

 

[browellm]

well, I am annoyed that currently it's bugged out and it prevents my car from sleeping.

Then use one of the two workarounds already mentioned in the thread:
Either:

1) keep the car plugged in if it's at home (this ensures it sleeps)
or
2) Disable IO smart-charging in the app e.g. when you and the car at work. If I'm away with the car, I do this. Then when I park up at home just toggle it back on in the app before plugging in. It's very little faff.