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[yessuz]

Then use one of the two workarounds already mentioned in the thread:
Either:

1) keep the car plugged in if it's at home (this ensures it sleeps)
or
2) Disable IO smart-charging in the app e.g. when you and the car at work. If I'm away with the car, I do this. Then when I park up at home just toggle it back on in the app before plugging in. It's very little faff.

nut that's the problem - in the pic I posted, the long non-sleep was when car was at home and plugged... nevertheless, will monitor and probably will do as you suggest.

 

[btc1k]

Is it a big problem if the car doesn't sleep? What is the battery use of it being awake?

 

[browellm]

nut that's the problem - in the pic I posted, the long non-sleep was when car was at home and plugged... nevertheless, will monitor and probably will do as you suggest.

I think there's some new behaviour going on which may be a combo of 4.5.3 and the API shenanigans the other week. It looks like the IO team have changed something. This is my plugged in behaviour. Previously it would just sleep all the time.

 

[PaulMD]

Not for me, I turned off IO smart at mid-day after reading this thread....

 

[browellm]

Not for me, I turned off IO smart at mid-day after reading this thread....
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Were you plugged in or not? If you weren't plugged in, I'd expect to see it perma-online like that with IO enabled.

 

[yessuz]

Is it a big problem if the car doesn't sleep? What is the battery use of it being awake?

it actually is if car is left without plug (i.e. car park at the airport) - I would need to disable the smart charging. otherwise I am losing 5% a day. it is 70% drop during 2 weeks.. ouch.

 

[init6]

I think there's some new behaviour going on which may be a combo of 4.5.3 and the API shenanigans the other week. It looks like the IO team have changed something. This is my plugged in behaviour. Previously it would just sleep all the time.View attachment 771969

Looks familiar @yessuz

 

[yessuz]

Looks familiar @yessuz

yea.

 

[yessuz]

OK, so in general, to sum it all up:

• Car should be on regular charging, not scheduled in order to use IO's smart scheduler (right?)
• When at home - always connect charger and enable smart charging in the Octopus app.
• IO will start charging at the scheduled times, but not earlier than 17:00.
• You always have 6 hrs of GO off-peak tariff despite smart features enabled or not, starting 23:30 and ending 5:30
• as it stands, you will have car always online (not sleeping) while not plugged or intermitted sleep while plugged with IO Smart Scheduler enabled
• When car is not sleeping there is ~4-5% vampire drain per day
• Car will go to sleep when IO Smart scheduler is disabled.

 

[PaulMD]

Were you plugged in or not? If you weren't plugged in, I'd expect to see it perma-online like that with IO enabled.

Yeah, unplugged.

 

[fancealot]

OK, so in general, to sum it all up:

• Car should be on regular charging, not scheduled in order to use IO's smart scheduler (right?)
• When at home - always connect charger and enable smart charging in the Octopus app.
• IO will start charging at the scheduled times, but not earlier than 17:00.
• You always have 6 hrs of GO off-peak tariff despite smart features enabled or not, starting 23:30 and ending 5:30
• as it stands, you will have car always online (not sleeping) while not plugged or intermitted sleep while plugged with IO Smart Scheduler enabled
• When car is not sleeping there is ~4-5% vampire drain per day
• Car will go to sleep when IO Smart scheduler is disabled.

• Correct
• Correct but better is to have smart charging on first THEN plug in.
• Correct
• Yes .... but remember the T&C's of the tariff is for you to use smart charging so if it's not used they may kick you off to a standard tariff
• Correct, Octopus know this is an issue (probably why it's only open to Tesla initially so they can figure out what problems are coming up) hopefully the sleep/wake will get a fix at some point soon.
• Correct as the car is continually commuinicating back to tesla's servers
• Correct

 

[btc1k]

it actually is if car is left without plug (i.e. car park at the airport) - I would need to disable the smart charging. otherwise I am losing 5% a day. it is 70% drop during 2 weeks.. ouch.

Wow, that's quite significant amount of drain, 3.5kw/day just to keep it awake. Basically akin to running a desktop computer...

 

[yessuz]

Wow, that's quite significant amount of drain, 3.5kw/day just to keep it awake. Basically akin to running a desktop computer...

well this is an estimation. maybe 4% in 24 hrs. still too much

 

[yessuz]

Yeah, unplugged.

absolutely same to me. was losing my sleep over this (pun not intended)

 

[olej24]

How do you get the chart when your car is sleeping? Is this a third party app?

 

[yessuz]

How do you get the chart when your car is sleeping? Is this a third party app?

yes, Teslamate
i use own raspberry pi server to self host it.

there are loads of tutorials how to set it the way you want, as well as there are alternatives, like teslafi, tessie, etc which provide the same more or less.

How to install TeslaMate on a Raspberry Pi without using a monitor - TeslaEV.co.uk

How to setup the TeslaMate data logger on a Raspberry Pi without using a screen / monitor. Get great data from your car without keeping it awake!

www.teslaev.co.uk

TeslaFi.com Tesla Model S 3 X Y Data Logger

Tessie: The Tesla management platform

Apps, analytics, automations and APIs for the world's most sophisticated vehicles. Trusted by over 300,000 Tesla drivers and fleet managers.

tessie.com

 

[Curlywurly]

Then use one of the two workarounds already mentioned in the thread:
Either:

1) keep the car plugged in if it's at home (this ensures it sleeps)
or
2) Disable IO smart-charging in the app e.g. when you and the car at work. If I'm away with the car, I do this. Then when I park up at home just toggle it back on in the app before plugging in. It's very little faff.

 

[Curlywurly]

My test of last night proved it didn’t charge the car. Bump charge works so I have no idea what’s wrong. Tomorrow I am changing back to Go tariff as I really can’t afford the fact that I’m not in control especially when I’ve got a 3 hour journey to make which is quite often. Sorry IO is a fail for me. May suit you if you don’t do much driving.

 

[olej24]

I completed my switch to octopus yesterday and setup IO and it successfully charged overnight. How long does it take for the IO tariff to show in the app as I’m currently still on flexible octopus.

 

[fancealot]

My test of last night proved it didn’t charge the car. Bump charge works so I have no idea what’s wrong. Tomorrow I am changing back to Go tariff as I really can’t afford the fact that I’m not in control especially when I’ve got a 3 hour journey to make which is quite often. Sorry IO is a fail for me. May suit you if you don’t do much driving.

My first charge through IO failed also, I think it could have done so due to the fact i'd done the test charge in setup and left it plugged in, I think it needs to be unplugged then plugged in after 5 to work out the correct charging slots. But evey night since it's been perfect.