mspohr
Well-Known Member
I think it makes sense for the P version to only come in AWD since AWD is not just for snow. It really does improve performance (acceleration and handling) over RWD. A true performance car should have AWD.
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I would have preferred a darker brown leather option as well. And I think we all would agree on improved lighting for the trunk and frunk. While we're at it, the lighting included with the premium interior should be standard.
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
Inside Sales just called. I have the following options:
1) Remove AWD and get the car in December in Green.
2) Change from an 85D to a P85D, get the car in December in green.
3) Choose another color.
Not happy.
1) Remove AWD and get the car in December in Green.
2) Change from an 85D to a P85D, get the car in December in green.
3) Choose another color.
Not happy.
There is too big a gap between the S85D at 5.2 seconds and the P85D at 3.2 seconds. The P85 bridged that gap nicely at 4.2 seconds. The jump from S85D to P85D now costs $8,000 more than the previous jump from non-performance to performance (over $18,000 versus $10,000). If you want a performance RWD car, your only option is a used P85 or P85+. Not everyone needs or wants AWD.
Personally, I think this lineup makes the most sense for a variety of reasons, and would hope/suggest/assume it will stay this way.
I suppose everyone has their own opinions.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Talked to Inside Sales just now. Didn't discuss options 1) and 2) as I am going for the D and P85D is obscenely expensive for me.
So, went with 3). Steel Grey, it's going to be.
Early in Feb, I was told, as I was one of the earliest 85Ds confirmed apparently.
and why should you be?!? you're being forced to get a brand new Tesla in your SECOND favorite color.
help is out there, though. the key is - don't be afraid to ask for it.
jgs
Active Member
Is there? How much nuance is needed between "faster than you need" and "balls out"?
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Sigh -- then perhaps I should practice some deep breathing and give up on hoping for mine in January, even though my Delivery Specialist said "we expect your Model S to be ready in late January or early February". I very much doubt I was one of the earliest 85Ds confirmed.
Totally agreed, S85D -> P85D is a very logical product line. 5.2 is totally reasonable, and if you want unreasonably fast, might as well get the full model -- one of the worst things about Porsche is the huge number of performance/trim levels on a given body: Panamera -> Panamera S -> Panamera 4S -> Panamera GTS -> Panamera Turbo -> Panamera Turbo S.
For sales, it certainly makes the Panamera Turbo a really odd sales line "Well, it's a really really fast car, but not quite the fastest Panamera we can build".
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
Why would I want to give Tesla $20k more in response to them trying to get out of the agreement to deliver the car I ordered? That's just sending entirely the wrong message to them.
I know it isn't the same, but have you green brothers considered getting the car wrapped? There might be a shade of green wrap you really like. And remember, the wrap is usually a paint protection, so when removed, the paint could be like new years from now. You could go with a base black paint job to save the Tesla upcharge for the colors.
JakeP
S P4996 ==> P02547
Tell them you would be happy to accept a P85D, if their state-of-the-art manufacturing facility can no longer produce the configuration you ordered, at the cost of your original configuration.
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
The $750 cost for the paint color isn't even close to the cost of a good color wrap. So getting black and then wrapping isn't a cost savings.
mspohr
Well-Known Member
It looks like you could have taken option 1 (keep the car you ordered for delivery in December in green) at no change in cost.
However, you wanted to change your order so you have to follow the new rules. They could have just said "You can't change your order".
The $20K is for the "Insanely fast" option and yes, you do need AWD to go insanely fast.
Judging from your picture, it seems you like green.
Me, I think grey is better in the long run... whenever I've had a car that was a "color" vs black, grey, or white, I get tired of the color after a while.
However, you wanted to change your order so you have to follow the new rules. They could have just said "You can't change your order".
The $20K is for the "Insanely fast" option and yes, you do need AWD to go insanely fast.
Judging from your picture, it seems you like green.
Me, I think grey is better in the long run... whenever I've had a car that was a "color" vs black, grey, or white, I get tired of the color after a while.
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
I never had an order for a delivery in December. I ordered a 85D in Green on October 24th with an expected delivery in February. If Tesla had said that an 85D couldn't be Green when I ordered it I wouldn't have a problem. But instead they're telling me the vehicle I already have confirmed can't be built.
I was not saying a wrap would be cheaper. I fully know the cost of a full wrap having done it. But you could save the cost of the upgraded paint IF you ordered a basic paint color knowing you were going to wrap it in green.
My next car, if it is a Model X or Model SD, I will mostly likely decide before I configure it if or if not I will wrap the car. And if I do plan to wrap it, I might go with a basic paint color this time to save some money. That of course will be decided after I see the Model X and the different paint options.
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
True enough. This reorder is already costing me enough money, I don't really want to spend the money on a full wrap. But I agree if my intention was to wrap I would order a free color.
