DiamondHands
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Was going to post essentially the same thing - dang you beat me to itlol. you're holding it wrong. Antennagate Is Finally Over, Good Riddance | Cult of Mac
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Was going to post essentially the same thing - dang you beat me to itlol. you're holding it wrong. Antennagate Is Finally Over, Good Riddance | Cult of Mac
I hope you never have an accident relating to use of AP. Tesla will use your post against you. They track this stuff.I copied a posfrom another member here because this is the exact same issue I have. What I ended up doing is strapping a weight on the same side I hold the wheel. The weight is not enough to keep the nag away if you do hands off, but works great with the way I hold my wheel. Sucks I have to do this to continue using a feature that was the main reason I purchased the car. I posted this so other members that have this problem can find a working solution for them.
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Actually this is pretty easy. It depends on how you normally drive. I get the nags every 15 seconds on highways. It is due to how I hold my hand.
I drive in 3 positions:
- My hand lies on the bottom end of the wheel. It is in balance, so no torque to left or right.
- I have my arm resting on my knee and my hand lightly holds the wheel, not enough for the car to "feel" it.
- My hand resting on my knee and my hand holds the wheel from below.
In those positions the car does not detect my hand. In order to fix this I have to have my hand "hanging" somewhat on the wheel. Then all the nags are gone. However, this doesn't drive comfortably for me.
If you have your hand higher up the wheel it will apply more torque to the wheel as your arm will be hanging from the wheel. Then you do not get any nags.
For me personally, AP is unusable since 21.9. On highways it's more comfortable to steer on my own than to apply torque every 15 seconds.
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@ZoomFPV - sorry but you get a disagree from me as attaching anything to your steering wheel is just a bad idea, and has the potential to be downright dangerous if if were to come loose.
When it is done simply to try to subvert a safety system designed by the manufacturer then this just makes it even worse.
Tesla instruct all of us and always have that the driver should hold the steering wheel, stay alert and remain in control of the vehicle.
Nothing has changed in that message.
It is incidents where this has not been the case, and no doubt attempts to override the safety features, that in fact are compelling Tesla to take ever more assertive steps to ensure the vehicles are used safely. So actually by doing this and then posting it on a forum, Tesla are incrementally forced to add ever more nags so your actions quite simply make it worse for the rest of us.
It takes absolutely no effort whatsoever to gently apply a little resistance to the steering periodically with the left hand resting at 7 o'clock on the wheel and this must be the preferred method.
As an aside where do you think you would stand if the police were to stop you, or you were involved in an accident and they saw an unauthorized device attached to the steering wheel?
@thegruf
Just to clarify again, I do hold the steering wheel mostly with 2 hands but the nags still come and then AP disables. This is due to may factors, my seating potion, being tall, etc. I tried everything already and i cannot get a comfortable potion to stop the nags. I am open to suggestions to solve this.
Here is what I tried.
Move seats
Move steering wheel
move legs
try every hand holding technique posted on the web
In the end, My wrist hurts and I cannot find a position. I have wrist injuries and cannot bear constant weight on it for long periods (BTW, this was the reason I purchased the car , for AP)
My normal driving position is both wrist resting on knees while holding steering wheel at 8 and 4 oclock
I’m curious: have you tried what I mentioned? Steering wheel down as far as it goes and as far out towards you as possible, with elbows resting on the armrest. It’s possible it’s just my body proportions but, at least for me, that makes my hands comfortably rest at 3 and 9 with few to no nags.
Note that it’s not a particularly great position for actually driving manually, so I keep it as a separate driver profile(I reiterate my feature request here to have a built in autopilot profile that it can automatically switch to when engaged, and back when disengaged, similar to easy entry)
By the way, this is legal to have on your vehicle in all states. Just to stir up the people that keep saying that you cannot attach anything on your wheel. Imagine getting a billet version that has significant weight?
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By the way, this is legal to have on your vehicle in all states. Just to stir up the people that keep saying that you cannot attach anything on your wheel. Imagine getting a billet version that has significant weight?
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you can attach things to ur wheel. what you cannot do is make modifications to your car meant to circumvent a safety feature, as the NHTSA just demonstrated by having that one unnamed device banned.
While you may consider AP unable since the nag update, the rest of us are doing it just fine. One Tesla youtuber went on a 1200 mile roadtrip without issues.
"many of us" are doing it just fine, and "many others of us" are apparently not.you can attach things to ur wheel. what you cannot do is make modifications to your car meant to circumvent a safety feature, as the NHTSA just demonstrated by having that one unnamed device banned.
While you may consider AP unable since the nag update, the rest of us are doing it just fine. One Tesla youtuber went on a 1200 mile roadtrip without issues.
The thing I am wondering is that for those people who get zero nag, does Tesla really see that your hands are on the wheel all the time? Let's say they really check the force on wheel every 5 seconds. And if they are not seeing any 5 times in a row (25 sec), then they nag you. For the people who sees no nag, maybe they just happened to be able to apply a force in one of those 5 checks every 25 sec.
Let's say if that person got into an accident with AP. Can Tesla come back and say that our data (every single 5 seconds check pass/fail) showed the driver engaged AP for 1 hour and in that 1 hour, his hand was not on the wheel for 48 minutes (1 successful check on every 5).
@ZoomFPV - sorry but you get a disagree from me as attaching anything to your steering wheel is just a bad idea, and has the potential to be downright dangerous if if were to come loose.
When it is done simply to try to subvert a safety system designed by the manufacturer then this just makes it even worse.
Tesla instruct all of us and always have that the driver should hold the steering wheel, stay alert and remain in control of the vehicle.
Nothing has changed in that message.
It is incidents where this has not been the case, and no doubt attempts to override the safety features, that in fact are compelling Tesla to take ever more assertive steps to ensure the vehicles are used safely. So actually by doing this and then posting it on a forum, Tesla are incrementally forced to add ever more nags so your actions quite simply make it worse for the rest of us.
It takes absolutely no effort whatsoever to gently apply a little resistance to the steering periodically with the left hand resting at 7 o'clock on the wheel and this must be the preferred method.
As an aside where do you think you would stand if the police were to stop you, or you were involved in an accident and they saw an unauthorized device attached to the steering wheel?
So part of the problem for taller people is that a driver profile steering wheel setting set to lowest then obscures the useful part of the IC (the part with the speed, for example).
Tesla has that as well. When you first enable Autosteer you have to agree to some kind of EULA/legal document.