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Add me to the group of early adopters that's been screwed. I'm all for a focused group effort
Not quite. I did zero maintenance on my 1999 Lexus GS400 except oil change, tires, and brake pads. Never even changed the spark plugs in the 19 years I have owned it and never had a problem with it. Still drives like new today. There is something to be said about well made cars. The model 3 is not one of them. I've already had 4 SC visits for various things breaking down in just the first 2000 miles. This car will be a service expense monster because it is so new, so little testing was done, and the build quality is on the cheep side.
As for now, if you want a reliable long range EV with a good manufacturer behind it, get a Chevrolet Bolt. I've their EVs for the past 6 years and had narly an issue. Plus they have an extensive dealer/service network who will take care of you. You won't however, constantly have the latest and greatest EV technology available to man today.
Agreed, I think we should collect some data, like a list of users here and/or vote, maybe send over to Teslanomics who can reach a wider audience.
I was considering writing to Tesla after collecting a vote to include: VOTE should performance 3 non-performance upgrade package get a refund
A. $5K refund
B. Free PUP hardware
C. Tesla credit
D. Early adopters deserve nothing
Anyone ever consider the precedence that would be set if Tesla refunds or upgrades one class of owners but not the rest?
3P+ have to give up something so it’s not a free refund.
Do you not see how hypocritical that statement is? Plz think b4 you reply! The precedent has been set with refund for PUP. You are trying to split hairs. A refund is a refund.Anyone ever consider the precedence that would be set if Tesla refunds or upgrades one class of owners but not the rest?
3P+ have to give up something so it’s not a free refund.
My sample size of one with the Bolt had multiple services in 10 months of ownership ranging from a door handle to major battery issues.
165,000KHow many miles did you put on the GS400?
Ha.. I guess you don't know my reputation on this board. I drive no car carefully. I have put the GS400 through the most extreme pain you could possibly imagine. It held up because it is a beast of design for longevity. I tried my best to break it but it wouldn't.It sounds like you drove it carefully, and kept regular maintenance.
No of course I replaced that every 4 years like every other car. Frankly I don't even consider that a part of the car.Are you still running the original battery in that time? That would be hard to believe if you were.
I agree, you probably can't say the same thing about many other cars.Everything else is you mentioned is reasonable for a well engineered and designed car (its a Toyota after all). You can't say the same about a recent Nissan though....(post Renault merger).
I hope you are right but when I look at all the systems above the skate which is a design wonder, I don't see anything particularly well designed for longevity.I'm at 4,004 miles, and while I've had a fair number of issues (cracked windshield, bent rim/popped tires etc.), being poorly built was not one of them. I do not expect many IF ANY issues related to the actual drive-ability of car the car because the beauty of them is the sheer simplicity mechanically speaking.
You have lack of imagination.There would have to be a serious design defect if these cars start going bad left and right. Outside of the occasional infant death (which all manufacturers have), I don't imagine them to be terribly unreliable.
The car drives like no other and that's what sold me on it but had I known how the stuff above the skate is built I probably would have opted for a different car.I try to be a realist/pragmatists in my choices and I still 100% believe I made the right choice in buying Tesla and still can firmly recommend to others to buy a Tesla as long as you can deal with the currently terrible wait times on their customer service.
I don't want to derail the thread, so here's a quick synopsis. My Bolt had the driver's side door handle replaced twice in 10 months. I also had a failed A/V system update they had to fix by appt. There were a small set of Bolt batteries that would fail due to a bad cell or something like that. I had two pending service updates that needed to be applied to help detect that. Prior to getting that done I was stranded with 20% left in battery. They replaced it and I traded the car to Tesla soon after when I got my perf model 3. I do think the Bolt is a good, reliable car, save for a very small percentage of battery problems.What's the story here?
Not sure if this forum has voting mechanisms - but this one does: Performance owners poll: Free Lifetime Supercharging? $5000 discount?Agreed, I think we should collect some data, like a list of users here and/or vote, maybe send over to Teslanomics who can reach a wider audience.
I was considering writing to Tesla after collecting a vote to include: VOTE should performance 3 non-performance upgrade package get a refund
A. $5K refund
B. Free PUP hardware
C. Tesla credit
D. Early adopters deserve nothing
This is easy - Old PUP'sters get $5K cash back (because they paid cash). P-stealthers get $5K credit toward Tesla stuff.Anyone ever consider the precedence that would be set if Tesla refunds or upgrades one class of owners but not the rest?
3P+ have to give up something so it’s not a free refund.
Seems quite reasonable... There could be more options - ones that cost Tesla less - on the list.All I want is Track Mode that adjusts for whatever hardware is on the car and fusc to show up in my account.
That is what I was assured I was buying. If they can’t do TM for P3D- then I think A,B,C should be on the table as goodwill.
Yes, Elon's gifted free supercharging - not the free supercharging that was incentivised early (i.e. a condition of purchase).for sure we can give up our free supercharging
This entire situation just makes me wish I had been either more or less impatient with my purchase.This is easy - Old PUP'sters get $5K cash back (because they paid cash). P-stealthers get $5K credit toward Tesla stuff.
The "stuff" apparently won't include PUP-stuff (which everyone else got), but can include equivalencies.
The old PUP'sters will cost Tesla the most money - but I "grant" them that...
So if you really want to talk about feeling like you got the short end of the stick, I essentially paid 10k to be able to pay 1.2k for a white interior a month early, for a slightly better car (10 mph higher top speed and ~1 second faster 0-60)