I knew the rates supposedly went up 9% today but apparently the EV2A rate had a 4 cent increase. Offpeak went from 20 to 24 cents. That's a 20% increase if you use most of your energy from the grid off peak.
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PG&E EV2A rate went up by 20% March 1
- Thread starter sorka
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Yeah we were talking about this in the thread about how to interpret your bills. The EV2A rate keeps moon-shotting because PG&E knows the vast majority of people on EV2-A are EV drivers who by and large are more wealthy. They have been jacking up EV rates for years and the EV drivers never seem to complain.
Like this TMC's main auto-sub-forums are filled with tens of thousands of EV drivers in NorCal; who presumably are using the EV rates to charge. And hardly anyone ever says anything about this. People just see petrol prices shooting through the roof and keep thinking Electricity is a bargain in comparison.
Here's an article from 2019 where nobody cared about a +25% increase back then either.
PG&E Raises Costs for Electric Cars by 25%. Nobody Blinks.
A large group of EV owners now pay 25% more for their electricity. Here's why nobody got upset at a change that would drive gasoline consumers nuts
www.forbes.com
PG&E could probably triple the EV2A off-peak rate right now and I bet nobody would care lol.
I'm still super pissed PG&E wouldn't let me add a few extra solar panels in anticipation of buying an EV. Jerks.
Yes, I take every thread about PG&E to beat my dead horse that PG&E sucks because they suck suck suck suck.
I don't have a bill yet for March, but I've never been able to jive that document with my actual PG&E bills.
My latest bill (2/10/22) shows $0.05033/kWh Off peak.
All I was charged for electric was the $9.98/m NEM charge.
The last 3 years I've had a yearly solar surplus (True up), but that may change as I got my 2PW2 in Jan, and M3 in May.
My latest bill (2/10/22) shows $0.05033/kWh Off peak.
All I was charged for electric was the $9.98/m NEM charge.
The last 3 years I've had a yearly solar surplus (True up), but that may change as I got my 2PW2 in Jan, and M3 in May.
Well, thanks for sharing your feelings! I never would have guessed
For real, why aren't more TMC users in the auto-sub-forums pissed that the costs to charge their cars goes up 20%? And this is 20% even if you charge in the daytime using that really cheap solar energy that Zabe is always complaining about having a cratered wholesale market.
If the cost of gasoline goes from $5 to $6 per gallon, people on normal ICE car forums lose their bananas. EV drivers should be pissed.
You're picture appears to be from your "blue header" PG&E bill. Which seems to only show the generation costs per kWh. Your black and white bill (the one that looks like it was generated on a mainframe running COBOL) will have the remaining distribution and transmission and other fees that you're being impacted by through NEM.
Or, you can look at the PG&E EV2-A general rate case submissions and compare the latest March 1, 2022 rates to the previous rates (which is probably what sorka did).
Keep in mind there are a surprising number of high-mileage commuters and people with SGIP batteries who are on EV2-A and don't have solar or NEM.
Yup. I was one of them until a little over a year ago. 260 mile round trip commute, although that was only once a week and now not at all over the last 2 years.
ucmndd
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Those of us still on EV-A got boned too, off-peak rates went from ~$0.16 to as high as ~$0.24. ~50% increase.
Infuriating. I’m so over this.
Infuriating. I’m so over this.
When I first joined EVA in 2015, the off peak rate was 10 cents. The funny part is that all the rate increases just accelerates the ROI on my solar and powerwalls. Not that I'm actually saving more money but the amount that I'm not paying PG&E goes up making the ROI shorter and shorter.
So glad I have powerwalls so I can shove 100% of peak production down their throats and run my peak usage 100% from storage. Us paired storage folks with EVs must be PG&E's worst nightmare.
ucmndd
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I’ve been supercharging a whole lot more lately with some very convenient local stations opening up and the fact that it’s “free” for my dinosaur Model S. Tesla might just have to eat some of this increase.
No one on the forum complains more or is pissed more than you are.
