SageBrush
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It's a country too stupid to avoid Covid infection, leading to trillions of dollars of Gov support of the economy. Did you think that money did not have to be paid back ?
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No ...
It's a country too stupid to avoid Covid infection, leading to trillions of dollars of Gov support of the economy. Did you think that money did not have to be paid back ?
Avoid infection? Lol. the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Let me guess -- you are also positive that vaccines are mind control devices using 5G.
Addendum: You sound sure about your opinion, would you like to make a wager ?
I win $5k if a physician writes in this forum that you are a clueless moron.
We'll use an arbitrator to verify the physician credentials and to hold the money. Loser pays all fees.
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You’ve just one-upped yourself in the stupidity scale. Another branch covidian. Good god it never ends.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
More blabbering from you ? Put up or shut up.
lost_sailor
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Guys - please take it down a notch. Nobody wins here. Besides, you're affecting my refresh rate on the forum
No problem. I’m done.Guys - please take it down a notch. Nobody wins here. Besides, you're affecting my refresh rate on the forum
If you look at the current maps, Putin has accomplished a lot. He has pretty much connected Russia to Crimea by land. Go a little bit farther and he'll have Odesa too. While he has not made all the gains he wants, he has peeled of a big chunk of Ukraine already even if he stops.
Even if Putin has a severely degraded mental state, it is nothing compared to our dementia riddle Commander in Chief. I doubt that whoever is actually running the White House is as sharp, aggressive or ruthless as Putin is. He knows what level of incompetency he is dealing with at many levels in the White House. I don't know how much longer the EU will stand together.
They need to totally eliminate Russian oil. Our demented leader should do everything in his power to increase oil production to drop the price of oil. I spent a lot of time in Russian oil fields and they are NOT efficient producers of oil. So dropping the oil price will crush the Russian budget and have a bigger impact overall than sending more arms to Ukraine. When Putin runs out of money, he'll have to stop.
Even if Putin has a severely degraded mental state, it is nothing compared to our dementia riddle Commander in Chief. I doubt that whoever is actually running the White House is as sharp, aggressive or ruthless as Putin is. He knows what level of incompetency he is dealing with at many levels in the White House. I don't know how much longer the EU will stand together.
They need to totally eliminate Russian oil. Our demented leader should do everything in his power to increase oil production to drop the price of oil. I spent a lot of time in Russian oil fields and they are NOT efficient producers of oil. So dropping the oil price will crush the Russian budget and have a bigger impact overall than sending more arms to Ukraine. When Putin runs out of money, he'll have to stop.
If most of the expensive utilities are in California and other blue states, that points to state politics driving costs, not companies. Your vote matters.
It’s Trumps fault; it’s Putin‘s fault; It‘s COVID’s fault; it’s SoCal Edison’s fault. Same blame game to deflect from the real issues. Some folks need to wake up.
stopcrazypp
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When did I mention any of those things (are you trying to set up a strawman)? I'm talking merely about how horrible your analogy about Cadillac is and how suggesting people go offgrid simply is not realistic.
This whole discussion is difficult. We have one side saying they have a very valuable product (rooftop solar). No one else thinks that’s true and they wouldn‘t give them a dime for it. Once rooftop solar was mandated by CA state pretty much the value of solar dropped to zero in the state. Yet that group is trying to Ram it down the utility/rate payers throats when they don’t want it because it costs the rate payers more than it’s worth. The only group that won is the solar contractor that ran off with $30k from each home owner in a scam. So they blame the boogey man, which In this case it’s the utilities. So it’s as ridiculous as saying Trump and Putin are responsible for inflation.
nwdiver
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You appear to have some fairly selective reading. From what I've seen there's broad consensus here that the exports of rooftop solar often IS 'worthless'. There may even be broad consensus that it's often worse than useless. The biggest disagreement for me is the idea that the utility should be paid for energy produced and consumed without ever touching utility owned equipment. A fee for exports because the price of electricity is negative... fine.
What's absurd is the idea that if I have 10kW and batteries I pay ~$80/mo just for having 10kW even if 0kWh is exported and 0kWh is imported. Why have the grid connection? Because it's better if I can export when exports ARE needed and import when there's a surplus on the grid instead of using batteries. Everyone wins.
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stopcrazypp
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Funny how you yourself are using the utility cost shift argument and using solar as a bogeyman for high electricity prices and putting utilities as blameless.
First of all, it's the utilities themselves that were promoting (and continue to promote) rooftop solar. Here's an example from PG&E:
Get started with clean energy
If they thought rooftop solar was bad for the grid, they certainly didn't tell their customers. Now after getting people to install and companies to invest in rooftop solar, they are walking back on their commitments (first with cutting 5 years from the original NEM 2.0 agreement, not to mention the greatly reduced credits and the fixed fee).
I'm not even going to go into all the points already discussed about the math of the utility argument (especially the grid participation fee) being highly dubious (already discussed in depth upthread by others), but it seem you clearly believe in the utility argument that they have no culpability in this. I would say read a bit up thread to see the actual arguments presented here (PS: as I mentioned up thread, I'm not even opposed to a fixed fee for grid access, but it must apply to all ratepayers, applying it only to solar owners is fairly obviously a discriminatory measure).
mspohr
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Free speech freedumb...
Missouri Senate primary highlights rise of violent rhetoric on the right
But it’s also part of a significant increase among politicians – largely Republicans – in recent years in references to guns and threatening language in campaign ads, according to researchers. That rhetoric contributes to polarization in our society and can translate to physical violence, they say.But it’s also part of a significant increase among politicians – largely Republicans – in recent years in references to guns and threatening language in campaign ads, according to researchers. That rhetoric contributes to polarization in our society and can translate to physical violence, they say.
Republicans are also more likely than Democrats to think civilians may need to engage in combat to save America. A majority of Republicans support the possible use of force to preserve the “traditional American way of life”, according to a 2021 George Washington University Politics Poll. Among Democrats the number was 15%. When asked if a time will come when “patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands”, 47% of Republicans agreed, as opposed to 9% of Democrats.Republicans are also more likely than Democrats to think civilians may need to engage in combat to save America. A majority of Republicans support the possible use of force to preserve the “traditional American way of life”, according to a 2021 George Washington University Politics Poll. Among Democrats the number was 15%. When asked if a time will come when “patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands”, 47% of Republicans agreed, as opposed to 9% of Democrats.
One key difference between the Trump era and other highly polarized periods is the advent of social media, which amplifies speech by instantly sending it to millions of people and often strips nuance from a statement, according to Helio Fred Garcia, professor of professional development and leadership at Columbia University and the author of Words on Fire: The Power of Incendiary Language and How to Confront It.
Missouri Senate primary highlights rise of violent rhetoric on the right
But it’s also part of a significant increase among politicians – largely Republicans – in recent years in references to guns and threatening language in campaign ads, according to researchers. That rhetoric contributes to polarization in our society and can translate to physical violence, they say.But it’s also part of a significant increase among politicians – largely Republicans – in recent years in references to guns and threatening language in campaign ads, according to researchers. That rhetoric contributes to polarization in our society and can translate to physical violence, they say.
Republicans are also more likely than Democrats to think civilians may need to engage in combat to save America. A majority of Republicans support the possible use of force to preserve the “traditional American way of life”, according to a 2021 George Washington University Politics Poll. Among Democrats the number was 15%. When asked if a time will come when “patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands”, 47% of Republicans agreed, as opposed to 9% of Democrats.Republicans are also more likely than Democrats to think civilians may need to engage in combat to save America. A majority of Republicans support the possible use of force to preserve the “traditional American way of life”, according to a 2021 George Washington University Politics Poll. Among Democrats the number was 15%. When asked if a time will come when “patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands”, 47% of Republicans agreed, as opposed to 9% of Democrats.
One key difference between the Trump era and other highly polarized periods is the advent of social media, which amplifies speech by instantly sending it to millions of people and often strips nuance from a statement, according to Helio Fred Garcia, professor of professional development and leadership at Columbia University and the author of Words on Fire: The Power of Incendiary Language and How to Confront It.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Not FSD related but it is a tweet from Elon.
This makes no sense to me. Republicans are generally very anti-renewable energy and anti-EV. Republicans support more fossil fuel production and less renewable energy. Their energy policies are opposite to Elon's agenda of renewable energy and sustainable transportation.
Also, why advertise this? it will just invite criticism. It seems he wants to play the victim because when he inevitably does get criticized, he will cry "I told you so! The libs are attacking me!"
This makes no sense to me. Republicans are generally very anti-renewable energy and anti-EV. Republicans support more fossil fuel production and less renewable energy. Their energy policies are opposite to Elon's agenda of renewable energy and sustainable transportation.
Also, why advertise this? it will just invite criticism. It seems he wants to play the victim because when he inevitably does get criticized, he will cry "I told you so! The libs are attacking me!"
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