Poll is current hardware sufficient for full self driving?

[Terminator857]

The Cruise accident where it dragged a person to me is proof that current hardware will never be FSD. Supervised FSD yes. Maybe can squeeze it out on freeways. But without being able to sense what is at the front bumper, it will be very very difficult to obtain FSD on current hardware. Need a front camera or other mechanism to know if dragging someone. What do you think?

 

[Dewg]

I'll remind you that Cruise and Waymo are loaded with sensors and they still have accidents. It's more about planning and NN in combo.

 

[JB47394]

Please don't do this again. Folks have flogged this horse so long and so hard that it's not only dead, but dismembered, flayed, atomized and scattered. Just stop.

 

[DanCar]

Please don't do this again. Folks have flogged this horse so long and so hard that it's not only dead, but dismembered, flayed, atomized and scattered. Just stop.

Sorry , can you point me to a previous discussion?

 

[JB47394]

Sorry , can you point me to a previous discussion?

Autonomous Car Progress

This thread is just a stub to continue discussion on autonomous car progress by other manufacturers and avoid the continual hijacking of other useful threads to discuss this subject.

teslamotorsclub.com

Enjoy. It's about 600 pages long, and the topic pops up regularly. I'm fairly certain that it shows up elsewhere, because it's a favorite flog on Elon and a point of defense for his supporters.

 

[JulienW]

Terrible poll:
L2: Yes
L3: Yes in ODD
L4: Probably not but a small chance maybe
L5: Near 0 chance

 

[spacecoin]

Terrible poll:
L2: Yes
L3: Yes in ODD
L4: Probably not but a small chance maybe
L5: Near 0 chance

L3: What ODD? Hardly city streets among VRU:s nor highway at highway speeds. Queue chauffeur? Possibly. Autopark? Smart Summon? Not this decade.

L4, L5: GTFO.

 

[JulienW]

L3: What ODD? Hardly city streets among VRU:s nor highway at highway speeds. Queue chauffeur? Possiblly. Autopark? Smart Summon? Not this decade.

L4, L5: GTFO.

It could easily match the Mercedes ODD for L3. So it IS true.

 

[spacecoin]

It could easily match the Mercedes ODD for L3. So it IS true.

Yeah, possibly they could do it for a super limited ODD, but they won't. Prove me wrong! No Tesla L3 before 2026. Possibly never on current hw.

 

[JulienW]

Yeah, possibly they could do it for a super limited ODD, but they won't. Prove me wrong! No Tesla L3 before 2026. Possibly never on current hw.

I don't expect it BUT READ the poll. Is current hardware sufficient for Full Self Driving? Not WHAT will Tesla do.

 

[zoomer0056]

The Cruise accident where it dragged a person to me

You were a witness? How did the person get hit, were they laying on the ground? No need for a bumper camera to see a person taller than 3 feet as the car approaches them.

 

[kabin]

For Tesla FSD? NFW! That was easy.

 

[spacecoin]

I don't expect it BUT READ the poll. Is current hardware sufficient for Full Self Driving? Not WHAT will Tesla do.

No is is not. By a longshot. FSD is defined by Musk as Level 4/5 since 2019 at least. Not even in daylight, dry roads at 35 mph.

 

[E90alex]

Terrible poll:
L2: Yes
L3: Yes in ODD
L4: Probably not but a small chance maybe
L5: Near 0 chance

The term “full self driving” as the public expects it to mean would be Level 4 and up. As in zero attention or potential intervention needed at all, you can sleep in the car and it will take you from home to work across city streets, highways and park in a parking lot.

 

[Dewg]

This is why Tesla just needs to change the names - problem solved.

Tesla Driver Assist
Tesla Enhanced Driver Assist
Tesla Advanced Driver Assist

 

[spacecoin]

This is why Tesla just needs to change the names - problem solved.

Tesla Driver Assist
Tesla Enhanced Driver Assist
Tesla Advanced Driver Assist

That, and a full refund for those who ask for it.

 

[legendsk]

What a pointless poll. It certainly doesn't matter whether the hardware is or isn't capable of FSD, because the software is quite clearly is not and seems to be drifting further away. Plus the hardware is undefined and has the stability of a pair of long johns on a clothes line, flapping in the wind.

 

[fholbert]

Voted no. They need to replace the human in the left drivers seat.

 

[Dewg]

That, and a full refund for those who ask for it.

Sure, why not. Refund EAP or FSD purchase and then disable them on the car. That works.

 

[DanCar]

Suspect Model 3 and Model Y will get front bumper camera with in a year like cybertruck.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738262413076763031

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