Telling somebody they were the 8th reservation in the world really means nothing ...
The 8th reservation holder probably live in Australia, and that is probably not even the 8th region they start taking orders from...
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Telling somebody they were the 8th reservation in the world really means nothing ...
That's the part they removed from the reserving a model 3 blog post... I mentioned it somewhere possibly another thread.
here it is
Going with Model S 60D Keeping Reservation?
That although it would be cool is highly improbable as Elon Musk has taken VIN 1 on all of Teslas carsmine was 000000001![]()
The point is that for Tesla to tell people what number they were in line on day one might ease your curiosity, but it's a completely meaningless number for most buyers, and Tesla doesn't want the bad press of anyone crying, "I have an email saying that I was 94th reservation made but now I'm getting the thirty-thousandth car manufactured and it's just not fair!"
Not knowing our position in the queue is fine but the one policy I don't quite agree with is pushing new Model 3 orders up the list if they also buy a Model S now.
Actually, Musk got VIN 2 in the Model S. Steve Jurvetson got VIN 1.That although it would be cool is highly improbable as Elon Musk has taken VIN 1 on all of Teslas cars
I realized that after posting this It doesn't mean VIN but number in line so you could be Number 1 in line but get VIN 5
The only reason I can think of is that time of order won't matter much eventually. Even being an existing customer won't guarantee anything. Tesla s bet is likely that existing tesla customers will order loaded M3s. But what if a California tesla model s owner order a $35k stripper M3, will he or she get the car before a non tesla customer in New England who orders a $80k performance model? I doubt it.Yes. Tesla removed it from the website.
It would be when your credit card was charged and Tesla entered your order. The only thing Tesla can tell anyone right now is what number they are in the order line 1-400,000. It's bad customer relations for Tesla not to tell paying customers what it can. We all get the caveats for a car that isn't even in production yet but we did show confidence and support for Tesla in putting in an order but Tesla does not show similar confidence in the customers, treating them badly in this regard.
I do not think that this is how it will work out. Remember that it are more conditions at play here at once: Employee, owner etc - west to east etc. - and date(/time) of reservation. All of this will be known by the time you get to configure your car. Then there is what options you select, and that is not known until after you have finalized the configuration.It will all based on how expensive the car I think.
By that standard, Tesla has a low opinion of their customers and views them through the lens of customers being a problem.
It is certainly not meaningless to Tesla buyers who make it the No. 1 topic on all Tesla forums and in the media.
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By that standard, Tesla has a low opinion of their customers and views them through the lens of customers being a problem.
As for the topic being meaningless, it was certainly not meaningless to Musk who was Tweeting the number of reservations by the minute. It was certainly not meaningless to Tesla which completely revamped it production, doubling it in half the time and using the customer's reservations to promote the company for financial gain. Tesla is withholding the information because Tesla feels it is too valuable to share with customers. It is certainly not meaningless to Tesla buyers who make it the No. 1 topic on all Tesla forums and in the media.
It is bad customer relations by any metric.
As far as I can tell, in this forum there are only two people complaining about not knowing their number. One is EaglesPDX and the other was aviators99 who started that thread about cancelling because of not knowing the number. Other than that, while a lot of people would be curious to know the number, I haven't seen actual complaining about it, especially not to the point where people feel it is bad customer service not to release the number, as EaglesPDX likes to claim.As you say, Musk was tweeting the number of reservations. The TOTAL number of reservations. He was showing the world how popular the Model 3 is sight unseen. It was incredible that more than 100,000 people were so eager to throw a grand at Tesla for a car they knew absolutely nothing about. You bet he tweeted it.
What he didn't tweet was anything about anyone's place in line, other than to say that employees are first, then owners, then highly optioned buyers west coast to east.
And yes, Tesla did determine they needed to ramp up production faster than originally planned, but that was based on total reservations, not based on your place in line. Which, by the way, is far from the number one topic in all the Tesla forums. I have yet to see anyone in the Model S or X branches of this forum complaining that they don't know their place in the Model 3 queue. Neither have I seen the media complaining that Tesla isn't telling anyone their place in the queue.
And yes, some people in this Model 3 branch of the TMC forum are complaining (such as yourself), but that's hardly representative of the TMC forum as a whole, nor of the Tesla Motors forum, nor is it representative of all media regarding Tesla. In fact, for the past month or so, the Tesla related media has been all about auto-pilot. Not your number in the Model 3 delivery queue.
And no, it's not bad customer relations for them to not estimate an arbitrary number that's subject to change.
I can think of dozens of other topic that forum members believe are more important as is evident by how many forum members have indicated why the number its meaningless..
As you say, Musk was tweeting the number of reservations.
And no, it's not bad customer relations for them to not estimate an arbitrary number that's subject to change.
Once you know that number, then what?It was quite the event, created by the customers, the same customers Tesla doesn't trust to know what number they were in the line. Be fun to know and good customer relations.
No one is asking for any arbitrary number. What people are asking for is what number they were in line from 1-400,000, a number Tesla knows from the date/time stamp of when the orders were received and logged by Tesla. Such a simple, small thing.
Then EaglesPDX starts complaining about how Tesla isn't adhering to that number when configuring and delivering cars.Once you know that number, then what?
Once you know that number, then what?
"But honey, if we order the tow package with air suspension, we'll move up 75,000 places and 6 months, we can buy the boat later".
...But more seriously: the only options that I believe you can count on to move you up the line is "P", bigger battery and "D". Maybe autopilot?