Price of DM increased again, this time to $6,000

[rdlink]

I had an AWD Model 3 configured and I was ready to order...

I refreshed the page to double check everything and show my wife the order and the price was higher! Gah!

$5k was pushing it and I was already on the fence. Looks like I'm ordering a RWD!

You have to do what makes sense for your situation and budget. But depending on why you were ordering AWD I would recommend taking a hard look before you walk away from it for $1000 on a ~$60,000 car.

In five years what is going to matter more? Having AWD on your car or that $1000? I live in a place where RWD was never going to be an option for me. I consider AWD a safety feature of my cars.

 

[a.void]

Got to love my June configured Red AWD is now $2500 more expensive to order. Too bad I don't have a car nor delivery date yet.

I'm going to bet the 19" wheels increase to $2000 by end of year.

 

[ebmcs03]

Dang. I wish I got Dual Motor when it was $4k. Also wish I bought And kept Tesla stock when it was $17 lol

 

[Trevor B]

You have to do what makes sense for your situation and budget. But depending on why you were ordering AWD I would recommend taking a hard look before you walk away from it for $1000 on a ~$60,000 car.

In five years what is going to matter more? Having AWD on your car or that $1000? I live in a place where RWD was never going to be an option for me. I consider AWD a safety feature of my cars.

He's in Tucson ... AWD probably an overkill to start with

 

[ecarfan]

AWD and Performance pricing delta is still the same

No, the delta has decreased to $9K, it was $10K. Here is what I see:

 

[ForeverFree]

He's in Tucson ... AWD probably an overkill to start with

Unless he's a skier. Tucson does have a local ski mountain.

 

[voip-ninja]

No, the delta has decreased to $9K, it was $10K. Here is what I see:

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Yup, only $9K more for a car that is 100% identical to the dual motor version but takes an already fast car and makes it crazy fast.

 

[voip-ninja]

Unless he's a skier. Tucson does have a local ski mountain.

Tucson + "mountain" = LOL

 

[ecarfan]

I would go AWD still. I predicted this move over two months ago. Demand is completely inelastic at 4K, and 5K so they need to go 6K.

I agree. That is the likely explanation for the price increase. Tesla is focused on becoming profitable as soon as possible. Model 3 Dual Motor demand is probably higher than they anticipated. They can increase their profit margin by raising the price of that option. Yes, some people will decide not to order Dual Motor. But the vast majority likely will.

If Tesla’s analysis doesn’t work out they can always drop the price. But they don’t do this kind of thing on a whim. They have data about option take rates, production costs, and margins that we don’t have. They know what they are doing.

 

[ecarfan]

Yup, only $9K more for a car that is 100% identical to the dual motor version

Earlier this year Elon said that the Model 3 Performance had different inverters than the other versions.

 

[voip-ninja]

Earlier this year Elon said that the Model 3 Performance had different inverters than the other versions.

Wrong. He said they have binned motors. I remain highly skeptical that there are any differences. Perhaps a small % of dual motor cars have motors that didn't pass the binning for P.

 

[MXWing]

Wrong. He said they have binned motors. I remain highly skeptical that there are any differences. Perhaps a small % of dual motor cars have motors that didn't pass the binning for P.

The biggest mystery that blows my mind is where are the AWD and Performance badges/spoilers? Not like they matter, but how the hell can you do things like motor sorting but can't come up with some stickers?!!?

It's definitely going to be Tesla's best interest to have enough consistency that a AWD Motor is interchangeable with a P motor. However at the end of the day, even if it is a software unlock its well within Tesla's rights to charge 9-11K for that.

 

[voip-ninja]

The biggest mystery that blows my mind is where are the AWD and Performance badges/spoilers? Not like they matter, but how the hell can you do things like motor sorting but can't come up with some stickers?!!?

It's definitely going to be Tesla's best interest to have enough consistency that a AWD Motor is interchangeable with a P motor. However at the end of the day, even if it is a software unlock its well within Tesla's rights to charge 9-11K for that.

More important than that is building dual motor cars, then a customer orders P, you flip the switch in software and 'presto' that car is now a P version.

There might be an op code in the cars firmware that identifies if a specific one has motors that passed P requirements. Or, as I suspect, they all do and the "binned motors" thing is more of a marketing gimmick.

I wonder if with the price increases on dual motor Tesla is going to feel pressure to increase the performance a bit. The dual motor car is quick, but not as quick as some German competitors in the same price range.

 

[SSonnentag]

Tucson + "mountain" = LOL

9,100 feet and snow skiing. It qualifies as a mountain. It's only about 50 miles away.

 

[MXWing]

More important than that is building dual motor cars, then a customer orders P, you flip the switch in software and 'presto' that car is now a P version.

There might be an op code in the cars firmware that identifies if a specific one has motors that passed P requirements. Or, as I suspect, they all do and the "binned motors" thing is more of a marketing gimmick.

I wonder if with the price increases on dual motor Tesla is going to feel pressure to increase the performance a bit. The dual motor car is quick, but not as quick as some German competitors in the same price range.

Oh, absolutely Tesla can get more juice from the motors. They have done it before. They dropped the X 0-60 times by over 1 second with a software patch.

The X is a bloated whale and they were able to do it. Not only did they do it, but they also retroactively patched cars that were 18 months older.

New Tesla Model S & Model X Get Performance Boost: Up To 1.2 Seconds Off 0-60 Times

Will they and how much will they charge is the question for the Model 3s.

 

[luniz97]

AWD should be 8k more and pearl white should be a limited edition

 

[voip-ninja]

9,100 feet and snow skiing. It qualifies as a mountain. It's only about 50 miles away.

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I'm obviously being snarky.... but that sir is a hill.

 

[kengchang]

No, the delta has decreased to $9K, it was $10K. Here is what I see:

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What I meant Performance is still the same price to make the leap from RWD. Only AWD got bumped.

 

[SSonnentag]

I'm obviously being snarky.... but that sir is a hill.

LOL! OK, fair enough. But at least we get to warm up when we go back home after skiing.

 

[voip-ninja]

LOL! OK, fair enough. But at least we get to warm up when we go back home after skiing.

Yes, you get to broil, I mean warm up.

I never had the pleasure of experiencing opening my car door, seeing the shimmering waves of heat emanating from the 200 degree street and observing the seals of my car door melting until I had visited that oven called Phoenix.

Then watching the local news from the comfort of my hotel room and observing the giggling reporter showing how it was a "you can cook an egg on the sidewalk day" by demonstrating that you could cook an egg on the sidewalk.