it's 80K for dual motor, not 90k, but still outside where I'm going to buy now.
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it's 80K for dual motor, not 90k, but still outside where I'm going to buy now.
ucmndd
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Your “facts” have thus far been a complete and total blanket defense of Tesla for setting wholly and completely unrealistic expectations four years ago with the excuse of “it’s been four years.”
There’s no nuance or critical thinking on display, just blind allegiance.
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RedWhite19
Member
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Or not, for buyers that can take advantage of the federal, state and provincial tax credits.
Jason with an entertaining review of the Cybertruck:
I’ll have to wait for a tear down but as an automotive designer who has some insight into the process of creating an automobile:
While I do agree that automotive media is highly problematic for a number of systemic reasons, the best ones have more of a 30K POV of automotive history.
While I see the appeal of chasing raw data numbers—and Tesla itself has made itself an easy target here with the drag races marketing campaigns-within this review there is a subtle sense of refinement that has been lacking from Teslas products overall. For the European/Japanese loyal buyers who want a different approach (and while extremely polarizing, most will agree this IS very different vs the establishment) this might be a very key element moving forward to draw and retain buyers.
Hyperbole aside, there was a another key point Jason mentioned-like other Teslas, the Cybertruck seems to FEEL like the future-and while I love the Silverado EV (we spent over 200 miles in one, a very lovely product) and Rivians flagships (a bunch of then FCA talent jumped ship to work on the RTs-squint and you can see Jeep DNA in the rear profile-beautiful work) they are very representative of ‘Legacy think.’
While this obviously has appeal for a lot of potential buyers, the Cybertruck is absolutely going to speak to the G Wagon/Urus buyer, and not everyone one of those can make the stretch to those. I’m not sure if a few miles of more range is going to sway that group of buyers.
Lastly, historically volume provided, Tesla has historically lowered its prices as it’s produced more products. Tesla marketing-er, product specialist fed Jason a line about the CTs motors being cheaper to produce and less wiring used throughout the design.
This is a signal that the company is projecting that it can and will lower cost as it ramps up, just as it did with the Model 3/Y, and S/X imho. The process within the company-especially the way engineering and manufacturing are aligned internally-almost guarantees it.
I’ll have to wait for a tear down but as an automotive designer who has some insight into the process of creating an automobile:
While I do agree that automotive media is highly problematic for a number of systemic reasons, the best ones have more of a 30K POV of automotive history.
While I see the appeal of chasing raw data numbers—and Tesla itself has made itself an easy target here with the drag races marketing campaigns-within this review there is a subtle sense of refinement that has been lacking from Teslas products overall. For the European/Japanese loyal buyers who want a different approach (and while extremely polarizing, most will agree this IS very different vs the establishment) this might be a very key element moving forward to draw and retain buyers.
Hyperbole aside, there was a another key point Jason mentioned-like other Teslas, the Cybertruck seems to FEEL like the future-and while I love the Silverado EV (we spent over 200 miles in one, a very lovely product) and Rivians flagships (a bunch of then FCA talent jumped ship to work on the RTs-squint and you can see Jeep DNA in the rear profile-beautiful work) they are very representative of ‘Legacy think.’
While this obviously has appeal for a lot of potential buyers, the Cybertruck is absolutely going to speak to the G Wagon/Urus buyer, and not everyone one of those can make the stretch to those. I’m not sure if a few miles of more range is going to sway that group of buyers.
Lastly, historically volume provided, Tesla has historically lowered its prices as it’s produced more products. Tesla marketing-er, product specialist fed Jason a line about the CTs motors being cheaper to produce and less wiring used throughout the design.
This is a signal that the company is projecting that it can and will lower cost as it ramps up, just as it did with the Model 3/Y, and S/X imho. The process within the company-especially the way engineering and manufacturing are aligned internally-almost guarantees it.
Originally I thought a price drop is out of the question, but reading others thoughts and seeing how they've dropped the cost of their current models. They might be charging so much for the first bunch. 3 years down the road $80k for AWD could be $60k. I'm not holding my breath though it's already been 4 years since the reveal.
RedWhite19
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Tax credits for cars at 80k+? That’s news me. This vehicle is 20k overpriced but people will find a way to justify its price as reasonable.
He needs to let the engineers do the engineering and make the.... engineering decisions.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Only the Cyber beast is $80+. You can always add FSD either as a subscription or not. Are you thinking of getting the wrap as part of your purchase?
TessP100D
Active Member
Nov 2019, he actually said… this is the pricing and now you can order one.
lets not forget he stated the specs and range.
100% fail
jebinc
Well-Known Member
And the clown said in the Jay Leno video, recently, at the 1:45min mark - “that final Tesla products are always more/better than the concept vehicle…. Unlike all other manufacturers… “ or something like that. What a load of lying BS! Clearly he knew that wasn’t true when he said it because final trucks were already on the road. What a lying sack of …. Potatoes
jebinc
Well-Known Member
P.S.
The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans
Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
www.vice.com
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Love it. Called this out yesterday and was stoned here by fanboys….P.S.
The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans
Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
“Plus, the Cybertruck raced a base trim 911, which has a 0-60 time of about four seconds.”
More Charlatan games. Next, we will learn how he put his thumb on the scale with that marketing 40,000 lb sled pull… wait for it…
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Negative reports are increasing; found four leads than 24 hours old already this morning, and it’s only 7:30am…. Sure, there are also some positive shill and influencer reports as well. Seems about 50-50 of each type…
www.vice.com
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www.reuters.com
electrek.co
www.autoblog.com
The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans
Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
www.vice.com
Tesla's Cybertruck feels like an SUV; price, lower driving range upset some
Tesla's pricier-than-expected Cybertruck pickup, which offers driving ranges that fell well short of what CEO Elon Musk had promised, has deeply disappointed some but fascinated others with its futuristic, SUV-like feel.
www.reuters.com
Rivian already has a patent on Tesla's Cybertruck 'range extender'
Tesla delivered the first Cybertrucks yesterday, and with that delivery event came the revelation that in order to get the...
electrek.co
Tesla Cybertruck's amazing feats lack context and details (so don't get too excited) - Autoblog
The Cybertruck is intriguing, but so much of what has been presented is awash in marketing. We need more context and information.
www.autoblog.com
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Tiger
Active Member
Don't worry, Tesla always milks the early adopters and lowers prices for masses later. Right now they are trying to keep its price up to avoid osborning the X which is totally obsolete after the release of CT. Also the CT has three motors and 850hp while Plaid has same motors and 1000hp - my bet is they will either sell a quicker one down the line or sell a boost option, but they are holding back to avoid ruining Plaid's lunch while they cannot manufacture these.
They’re not the same motors. The rear motors on the cyberbeast are induction motors. Plaid has permanent magnet motors in all 3 positions.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Truth - Milk all of the shill, influencers and fanboys - that's how Elon treats his loyal base!
The whole issue with the price is that it was nothing but a Go Fund me for Tesla.
Musk knew the die hards would quickly put down $100 no matter what “concept” they put out… speaking of concepts, we can put to rest that Tesla doesn’t put out concepts.
It’ll continue to happen. For the Model 2 he’ll promise $25k everyone will put down their $100, 5 years later starting at $35k.
At some point we will learn to be patient and wait instead of wanting to be the “first”
Cancelled almost 72 hours ago and still waiting on my refund
Musk knew the die hards would quickly put down $100 no matter what “concept” they put out… speaking of concepts, we can put to rest that Tesla doesn’t put out concepts.
It’ll continue to happen. For the Model 2 he’ll promise $25k everyone will put down their $100, 5 years later starting at $35k.
At some point we will learn to be patient and wait instead of wanting to be the “first”
Cancelled almost 72 hours ago and still waiting on my refund
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Same, still waiting.... there were reports from some member here who canceled months ago and they are still fighting Tesla for their $100. Please let us know if you ever get your $100 back. I will reciprocate.
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