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This is a big problem - there's no timeline. They can keep kicking the "better with software updates" can down the road forever. The fact that they can't replicate AP1 highway performance (which I have and love BTW) at this point doesn't bode well.The problem is if Tesla gets it really wrong, we all suffer or could be injured. Based on my experience with the Y, they clearly haven't gotten it right and removing the radar made it far worse. How long should we all wait until Tesla gets it right.
I’m scheduled to take delivery of my S tomorrow. I was really bummed with not getting the new headlights until I found out it also meant no radar. I had a 21 y with radar that I traded for a 22 vision. The AP in the 22 was unusable. I personally wouldn’t be buying this S if it didn’t have radar.
It was not zero viability but maybe 50 feet ahead. IDK. “lighten up Francis”So because of radar you drove in conditions where you couldn’t see. I am not convinced this is a good thing.
LIFRIt was not zero viability but maybe 50 feet ahead. IDK. “lighten up Francis”
CAT II ILS has very strict requirements, the thing we have is more like a forward-looking-short-range radar. Shame that Tesla is not willing to keep it operational. That small unit has advances over all aspects of the camera vision…Exactly. CAT II ILS minimums
Agreed on the radar. It is like not having GPWS (or RADALT) on a CAT II ILS ;-)CAT II ILS has very strict requirements, the thing we have is more like a forward-looking-short-range radar. Shame that Tesla is not willing to keep it operational. That small unit has advances over all aspects of the camera vision…
I just had an experience like this in Cali. Hit some really thick fog at night on 99S towards Sacramento. No issue with FSD on my Model S with radar. The radar had no issue seeing cars and the lane markers well ahead of where I could see them with my eyes. Driving with radar that can penetrate weather is a lot safer than driving with just cameras that replicate what a human can see.So because of radar you drove in conditions where you couldn’t see. I am not convinced this is a good thing.
Presumably though it will still be radiating - uselessly - and consuming power?
But wait, Elon is developing "x-ray vision" for the camera-only systems* which will see more than one car ahead using peering through windows, reflections from surrounding car bodies, their rear view and side mirrors, even clouds in the sky! After all, there ought to be some photons which bounce from the car in front of your car that bounce around and eventually hit one of your car cameras. It's "just software" to figure out which photon came from where.Wait a minute! I remember receiving this update that used radar to see vehicles ahead of the one immediately in front of me by bouncing radar under the first vehicle. It was AMAZING to see good depictions of multiple cars in front of mine. Is this going way with vision only?
Elon Musk explains Tesla Autopilot's new capacity to see ahead of the car in front of you
One of the most impressive new features that Tesla announced today with the Autopilot’s new radar processing capacity is the...electrek.co
When FSD is fully released, yes. Until then, I think it will be a long time until they turn off radar for cars that have it when using Autopilot. It behooves them to continue to mine data from both versions so they have a comparison of what is and is not working better or worse than before.Most likely once the FSD stack is pushed down they will drop the radar since apparently the FSD stack doesn't use it.