Whether you worry or not is completely up to you, however, your 10% degradation means that you have 20% more to go (as measured by the information on the cars screen, not any external website / source Calculating Your Battery's Estimated Capacity Using the Car's Energy Screen ) before you can engage tesla on this topic.
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Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health
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Whether you worry or not is completely up to you, however, your 10% degradation means that you have 20% more to go (as measured by the information on the cars screen, not any external website / source Calculating Your Battery's Estimated Capacity Using the Car's Energy Screen ) before you can engage tesla on this topic.
Just wanted to confirm best practices for my situation. New 2022 M3LR, located in Hawaii with 20 mi RT commute. Probably use a bit more for cabin over heat protection since I park in the sun. I'm planning on setting limited to 70% and just plugging it in everyday to L1. Anything different I should do?
With an NCA battery, it may be better for battery longevity to charge to 55% or less daily if that is sufficient.
I got 2021 Model 3 performance in June 2021. I mostly charge at home at 10 to 15 amps to 80%. Odometer is at 16363. My work commute is only 20 miles round trip. I take longer trips to San Francisco, Sacramento, Los Angles once twice a year. At first 100% charged was 314 miles and now it's down to 295 miles. Back then 80% was 247 miles and now 80% is 230 miles. So it's only been 14 months is that normal drop amount or it a little fast. Please post your experience with your model 3 range to compare.
Down below, s chart woth the green line fleet average for 2021 M3P.
I did not get teslafi from day one, thats why the odo starts at 5990 km.
Range is in km also, miles x 1.609 = km.
Your 100% range is 295 mi = 475km.
Seems very average, and normal for a climate like yours.
During the first years the battery age much more from time than the miles. A car that is driven very little still degrade about as mich the other cars does.
I have a new Model 3 supposed long range and I only get less than 150 miles !!! The claim is that I do too many short trips!!!!
For example, currently I have used 70% of charge and have only driven 107 miles!!!
For example, currently I have used 70% of charge and have only driven 107 miles!!!
Soul Surfer
Cancervivor, tech geek & musician
Hi there. It would help us a lot if you specified your model type (P, LRAWD, SR+) for us to chime in. As you are in WP, the short trips and AC turning on frequently to cool the car down, will definitely impact range. Up here in “Kuh-Nuh-Duh”, we have the same issue, only with reheating the car in winter. 
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
M3BlueGeorgia
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Lack of information provided 
Ex: What tires? How short is "short"?
Yes, short trips will hurt in summer and winter, because of the energy used to get the interior temperature down to comfortable, relative to the energy used for the trip itself.
Suggest a road trip to try to understand if you have a real problem or not.
Also look at the energy application to see what your usage is and the pattern of energy usage.
Note: It is very rare, but not completely unknown, for there to be a problem affecting range that needs a service visit.
Remember the advertised EPA range only applies to people who drive close to the EPA test pattern, though you only run into a significant variation when doing Freeway speeds or in frigid temps.
Choice of tires and rims also affects range.
Ex: What tires? How short is "short"?
Yes, short trips will hurt in summer and winter, because of the energy used to get the interior temperature down to comfortable, relative to the energy used for the trip itself.
Suggest a road trip to try to understand if you have a real problem or not.
Also look at the energy application to see what your usage is and the pattern of energy usage.
Note: It is very rare, but not completely unknown, for there to be a problem affecting range that needs a service visit.
Remember the advertised EPA range only applies to people who drive close to the EPA test pattern, though you only run into a significant variation when doing Freeway speeds or in frigid temps.
Choice of tires and rims also affects range.
Efficiency and range depend on speed, weather, tire pressure and regen setting.
What are yours ?
Still, this sounds like an unusually low range, even in cold weather at high speed.
What do the efficiency plots look like ?
What are yours ?
Still, this sounds like an unusually low range, even in cold weather at high speed.
What do the efficiency plots look like ?
Do you have sentry mode sets to be on all the time? Sentry mode drains about 1 mile/hour while parked. And dashcams while driving probably also drain about 1 mile/hour. So you drive 107 miles in about 4 to 5 days, it will add about 100 to 120 miles usage with sentry mode set to be on all the time.
dhrivnak
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ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
dhrivnak
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Early long distance RWD. 310 miles when I got it. I typically charge to 90% and range charge about every other month.
Soul Surfer
Cancervivor, tech geek & musician
When you select the Car icon and scroll down to software, it will tell you what you have. Actually your phone app, will even tell you what you have. Just scroll down.
Questions:
- Did you buy it new?
- Why do you mention that "new Model 3 supposed long range"?
- Your bill of sale, VIN, etc. would all point to the spec you have
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AlanSubie4Life
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Pretty good. Only 10% loss. 70.2kWh down from original 78kWh.
Not as good as @KenC though! That guy is truly blessed.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
This is of course completely normal. As others have mentioned, Sentry and other feature drain can really add up.
Not an issue (except for cost and convenience - substantial impact there) since this does not impact your actual highway range (which is going to be around 250 miles).
if you put -3% this means that you are with 3% more than intial capacity?
BTW you can connect the car to ABRP and have many parameters related to your actual car (Tesla Password needed).
The degradation in ABRP (at least for my 2021 Model 3 Performance W/20") is not really correct because it says that the NFP is 74,2 (SMT says 75,1)
the SoC is correct (50%) , but the battery left is 245 on ABRP and 239 on SMT (and in the screen car also).
Degradation is 0,9% in ABRP , probably estimating the battery when new as a 75kWh battery instead of the actual 82,1 kWh.
SO I'm asking where the ABRP when connected to the car is reading the data.
I think that the consumption at 110 km/h is a good data (178 Wh/km) because it is derived from the actual consumption and your actual drive style and the forecast prevision data of range left at the end of a trip is always correct.
The people who run ABRP are in Europe. They have a twitter account, you can try asking them where they draw their data. It would be nice if these app developers noted which numbers are assumptions. I figured anything that doesn't show it's pulling from an API could be an assumption.
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