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So there's no oil where the splines slide into the reduction gear/differential?Correct
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So there's no oil where the splines slide into the reduction gear/differential?Correct
That sounds like CV joint, which would require half shaft replacement.I have a front axle click, that clicks with a speed correlating with wheel speed. Could be same thing up front? Seems to happen only when turning.
It didn't feel or look like it on my Dec 2018 build w 50k miles.So there's no oil where the splines slide into the reduction gear/differential?
Interesting. I'm curious what the design is. I'll likely take mine apart this summer to eliminate the minor clicking that I'm getting under hard acceleration from a stop.It didn't feel or look like it on my Dec 2018 build w 50k miles.
Awesome write-up, thanks for posting! I have this issue with both of my rear axels and I've greased & regreased the outer splines (per this videoAll,
I've been looking on here for sometime now but this would be my first contribution. Thank you all for providing such useful content. I hope this helps others.
Anywho.... I've had the rear clicking since I purchased my used Model 3 (sleeper performance model). With the windows open, it is extremely noticeable on acceleration and regen and was getting on my nerves. So, I wanted to put my warranty to use and get service to look at it but in the Denver metro area that meant waiting a month and a half for a service appointment and then dropping the car off for 4 days without a loaner.
So, I stumbled around looking for articles on what other were told by the dealer as a fix and it was a mixed bag. However, it seemed to be a mix between loosening axle nuts and corrosion/issues with the splines on the axle itself. I have repeatedly retorqued the axle nuts and the sound returned. So, to take the overkill approach this is what I did.
Tools Needed:
Steps:
- Breaker bar
- Torque Wrench capable of 185 ft/lbs
- 10mm 17mm 18mm sockets and wrenches
- WD-40
- Soft wire brush
- Loctite LB8012 (or other metal free low friction lubricant) as suggested by the following link
- Red Loctite
Again, this may be overkill and maybe red Loctite with retorquing the nut would have ultimately worked for me. However, I'm 1000+ miles in and have yet to hear a peep out back. Back so silent, brutal acceleration.
- Set parking break, loosen rear wheels, and jack the rear of the car up. (I did one side at a time)
- Remove wheel
- Remove the Axle Nut (32mm). Parking break was able to hold enough for me to loosen with a breaker bar
- Remove the abs sensor with a 10mm socket.
- Remove the upper control arm, trailing arm, and lower front control arm (mix of 17 and 18mm bolts/nuts). Make sure to mark the orientation of the upper control arm bolt as this sets the rear camber.
- This allowed enough movement for the axle to be pulled from the hub. It wouldn't come all the way out but I was able to wedge the axle against the backside of the hub to hold it to work on the axle splines.
- Clean axle splines and inner hub with WD-40 and soft wire brush. I spent a good amount of time doing this to ensure there was no debris or old grease left on either the splines or inside the hub mating surfaces. You can spin the axle to allow ease of cleaning around all splines.
- Spread a liberal amount of the low friction lubricant on the axle splines and rear mating surface. This will squeeze out but also create a barrier to prevent moisture or debris from making it into the surfaces if this was the cause of the noise.
- Reinstall axle back into hub and reconnect suspension in reverse. I found it helpful to put a jack stand under the lower control arm and lower the car (or raise this with a jack) to counter the spring and allow everything to be put together easier. I did apply some antiseize to the bolts as a few had some corrosion. Good preventative measure should anything need to come apart again later in the car's life.
- Torque bolts to spec? Unless someone has a good reference, I searched and came up with good guesses on torque at 90ish ft/lb for the upper control arm bolt (camber bolt, and remember to orient it back correctly to avoid an alignment) and 65ish ft/lb for the (2) other bolts.
- Reinstall abs sensor.
- Reinstall axle nut with red Loctite. Torque to 185 ft/lbs.
- Reinstall wheel, lower car, and torque wheels to 135 ft/lbs
- Enjoy your click free car.
Hope this helps someone that is in my previous situation. If anyone has good torque values for the rear suspension, I will update the post.
I would always challenge them. Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage. If the dealer cannot prove such a claim — or it proffers a questionable explanation — it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty...Those coil overs can void the warranty at the SC discretion. I’ve been told a few times they are not allowed by policy to work on modded cars. So they won’t touch suspension issues with the coil overs. They would work on ac or wiring for example. I had some butchered wiring from a prior owners poor attempt at speaker upgrades and because they soldered the wires directly to the speakers and the ranger could not unplug the door card, he flagged it, told me the policy and did me a favor anyways by installing a new door handle. A friend with coil overs was told to come get his car without the work needed because he “modded” the car. So don’t be surprised
I flew out one way ticket to Sedona AZ to pick up a 1996 Corvette quite a few years ago. It was beautiful aqua color. I had been getting emails with pics and asking questions for weeks. Yeah, it's gonna be mine and bought a one way ticket. I test drove and was ready to trade for $. Then driving into the parking lot, I heard a click as speed was reduced. Did you hear that, he said yes. It clicked whenever it decelerated. They tore apart the whole drive train, still clicking. They couldn't figure it out in six hours! He called a retired mechanic who said to grease the axel into wheel spline. Clicking gone!!! I had the car for many years and never a click did I hear.Awesome write-up, thanks for posting! I have this issue with both of my rear axels and I've greased & regreased the outer splines (per this video) several times only to have it come back by the next day or 2, and sometimes same day.
Hopefully greasing the inner splines will finally rid me of this annoying noise!
Its a know issue with early build TM3’s.This seems to be a more common issue on EVs because of regenerative braking - my '11 Nissan LEAF did this quite noticeably after a few years (never did get around to greasing the axle splines) and now my '18 Model 3 is doing it (not quite annoying enough to fix, yet).
For $66, I would probably opt to just have the shop do it instead of myself, it's really not a bad price!