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???2nd hand S Plaids with as little as 2K miles on them are going for $AUD125K in the US. Frightening the depreciation on these cars.
Might want to try cars com and have a look around. Amazing how much we pay on this remote/captive audience island....???
I found a 1000 dollars on the ground today. Would you like to know more made up facts?
I agree the marketting term FSD was not used for AP1. Its up to the individual how they interpreted the written material on autopilot presented by the company at the time, which is always easier in hindsight.If I recall correctly, Autopilot was announced in between when I ordered June 2014 and took delivery December 2014 of my Model S, so at the time I was very interested in its capabilities. I also recall Elon saying that within 3 years they would be making cars with hardware capable of FSD, but I don’t have any links to the proof of my recollection. I‘m fairly certain that there was no FSD promise for AP1 but all later versions thereafter there were promises of FSD or at least a hardware upgrade to make FSD possible.
My reading of the current announcement is that AP2&3 will still be FSD capable but AP4 will just be better.
My 5c.
Comprehension and reading not your strong point I'm guessing:there is a photo of a current bid (not final price and no vehicle information) and then another photo of a car with 100000km +
what is going on in this thread lol
Referring to earlier discussions, now seems even more irrelevant, Autopilot 4.0 is a completely different form factor , so no retrofits... Only early reports, don't shoot me, links to source below:
Elon has already said ap 3.0 is sufficient for FSD but 4.0 will be safer. If you read the twitter thread in detail the main hardware is the same just more cameras and some parts have extra redundancy if they dont work.Then Tesla is going to have a legal issue, from me at least.
I was promised the hardware on my X will continue to be upgraded at no cost to to me to achieve FSD, not some half baked version that will be AP3.0 since now AP4.0 will be required to get truely FSD....you watch Tesla say that 4.0 is truely needed to full FSD...well I was sold FSD and it b*&^@y well better support it when it is released and on whatever b*&^@y version of AP is require to true achieve it.
Elon has already said ap 3.0 is sufficient for FSD but 4.0 will be safer. If you read the twitter thread in detail the main hardware is the same just more cameras and some parts have extra redundancy if they dont work.
Time will tell if any of that is true
Elon said it on stage at the AP1 (and P85D) launch event.I'm going to have to disagree about that ever being part of the Ap1 claims. It was the selling point of AP2.
“More unsafe” ≠ not safeYes...so $10k for software that is yet to be rolled out, purchased the software as I was promised the hardware would always be upgraded and now I am meant to take the more unsafe version when Tesla eventually release it here in Australia because they're indeed not going to upgrade my hardware? Seriously?
Point on redundancy; example: sunlight hits the side camera and one sees the message reduced blah blah message pop up...this is not just redundancy for the extra camera's, extra processing power will be required to be real FSD...there is NO WAY in hell Tesla are doing this unless it's "needed"...that's plain and simply the truth.
I'll run that one in court, no problem at all...
There's others reporting the LR in US inventory going for as low as $81k. Tesla moving the old hardware models and I reckon a price cut next quarterCrazy prices in the US.