It's crazy how the 2 week shutdown at the end of last year was "unprecedented" and abnormal for a car manufacturer.
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Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room
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Chancellor32
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for real tho! Here’s to hoping we hear something tomorrow because it’s been a long 7 month wait for me!!
EV-lutioin
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It's the same for everyone... try to get Bronco or an F-150.
JTWIRE
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F-150 my local guy has them and some Broncos too!
Well, good news on the Model S front - deliveries will restart: Tesla restarts Model S deliveries after a strange weeklong hold
I wonder if we'll hear the reason behind the hold?
I wonder if we'll hear the reason behind the hold?
honeyfist301
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Seats and screens wouldn't explain a hold on cars already in delivery centers.
It seemed like it happened right after a software update, so I'm thinking they were waiting on a software/firmware update. No idea why it was so important as to actually hold up deliveries, though.
It seemed like it happened right after a software update, so I'm thinking they were waiting on a software/firmware update. No idea why it was so important as to actually hold up deliveries, though.
Jdcleary
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All right, here's my question of the day.
As far as I can tell, the prior Model X Performance model had a 0-60 time of 2.7s, and the upcoming Plaid is listed as 2.5s. Why didn't the tri-motor plaid powertrain yield a better improvement than that? It sounds like the S Plaid has more consistent power both at varying speeds and at varying levels of charge compared to its predecessor, so there's that (assuming it carries over to the X). But I had expected a bigger boost off the line from adding a third motor. Maybe the limit is on power delivery from the battery?
As far as I can tell, the prior Model X Performance model had a 0-60 time of 2.7s, and the upcoming Plaid is listed as 2.5s. Why didn't the tri-motor plaid powertrain yield a better improvement than that? It sounds like the S Plaid has more consistent power both at varying speeds and at varying levels of charge compared to its predecessor, so there's that (assuming it carries over to the X). But I had expected a bigger boost off the line from adding a third motor. Maybe the limit is on power delivery from the battery?
kingjones94
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S/X models are torque limited up to the point that the power limits kick in. That point will be after 2.5s so the only obvious way to differentiate the cars’ 0-60 is to dial the torque limit down: higher than raven but lower than S plaid. Weight and drag differences only contribute a tiny part of the 0.5s difference.
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I'm sorry, are you saying the X plaid should be able to do 0-60 or perhaps 1/4 mile pretty much as fast as the S plaid, but Tesla has chosen to dial down the performance parameters on the X in order to maintain differentiation between the S and the X?
JTWIRE
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That sure would be welcome news for us all!!!LOL, you mean, Elon will announce Model X deliveries beginning in "two weeks"
VLTWGGN
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After seeing the prototype MX Refresh pull up next to me at the Supercharger, I have mixed hope that it's coming soon. The back door opened and it had absolutely 0 interior trim in the back, which leads me to believe that they don't have all the parts yet to start production.
Gap/Offset on the falcon wing doors to the wheel well and C pillar was truly terrible. The car still felt very much hacked together from a manufacturing perspective. Then of course, I have been surprised before!
I'd get an MSP instead now, but I really want an SUV to haul my dog and people around...and my wife thinks the falcon wing doors are cool.
Gap/Offset on the falcon wing doors to the wheel well and C pillar was truly terrible. The car still felt very much hacked together from a manufacturing perspective. Then of course, I have been surprised before!
I'd get an MSP instead now, but I really want an SUV to haul my dog and people around...and my wife thinks the falcon wing doors are cool.
I am speculating somewhat on their motivation but all the cars have torque limits and power limits set by Tesla. And the only way you get from a 2.0 S to a 2.5 X 0-60 is by lowering the torque. The weight difference isn’t enough. And aerodynamic drag at that speed is negligible. As for the quarter mile, you might see drag affects.
I don’t know what the raven torque settings are but pre raven the X torque was always set about 10% lower on the X. See the metrics here.
I realize the wheel outside diameter is different in the two setups is different
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After seeing the prototype MX Refresh pull up next to me at the Supercharger, I have mixed hope that it's coming soon. The back door opened and it had absolutely 0 interior trim in the back, which leads me to believe that they don't have all the parts yet to start production.
Gap/Offset on the falcon wing doors to the wheel well and C pillar was truly terrible. The car still felt very much hacked together from a manufacturing perspective. Then of course, I have been surprised before!
I'd get an MSP instead now, but I really want an SUV to haul my dog and people around...and my wife thinks the falcon wing doors are cool.
The fact it looks like 3 different cars sandwiched together always concerned me with the X. The B pillar in particular usually doesn't match. Sometimes the C pillar will also have a big bump and offset. Like glaring.
The refresh S look great, so I was definitely hoping they'd translate that over to better built Xs.
kingjones94
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People on the earnings call keep asking about dang batteries lol not a single question about the new X 
Chancellor32
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