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It is rare that I give a 'disagree' but while @rdalcanto 's service experience may have taken over this thread it IS relevant to anyone investing in TSLA because between Service (already acknowledged by EM as something that he is focusing on..ie.....It needs to be fixed) and Comms (which Dennis illuminated at the SH meeting) TSLA investors should be concerned.

EDIT: Not only investors but anyone wanting to see the completion of the mission statement
 
If you are an investor, my service experience should be highly relevant to you. In case you are not aware, Tesla does not spend money on advertising. Tesla owners are the ones spreading the gospel and fighting the FUD. As an early 2013 owner in Salt Lake City, I'm probably responsible for millions in sales, on top of the more than half a million I have spent myself. I don't know if I'm Tesla's biggest buyer in Utah, but I have to be among the top. So when I spend a lot of time on the phone, arguing with my delivery specialist, and then eventually the manager here, and I'm told that they won't consider the possibility that the test drive vehicle I bought with no discount (because after having sold my Model S I couldn't wait any longer for yet another VIN assignment and delay) could have had a nail in the tire from the test drives, that should be a huge red flag for everyone here. Personally, I am no longer considering buying another Tesla if Audi or Porsche can put out something decent in the next two years. You don't piss on your best clients.

What process do you expect Tesla to implement in a way that fairly treats all customers?

You seem to be insinuating that Tesla should keep a super secret log of customers as to how much money they spent and primarily give goodwill to those customers.

The problem is that Tesla is a not a dealer. The dealers aren't owned by Audi or Porsche so they can bend over backwards and make up whatever policy they want to appease those "special" customers. Tesla can't operate that way as one Model S customer shouldn't be treated differently than another.

I'm not at all trying to defend Tesla. I just want to understand as an investor how Tesla is going to implement a fair process for all customers. Perhaps their current policy should be more flexible, but whatever policy it is should be uniform no matter what you spent. I think they will figure out a way to better communicate with customers about expectations at delivery. Might take time as they figure out operations outside of the dealer system while also scaling up at the same time.
 
My recent service (actually delivery) experience was exactly the opposite of yours. We bought our Model 3 using our trust, but there was a typo in the trust name, "... trust dated June 12, 2012" but it should have been June 15. Now the original typo was mine, but still Tesla should have noticed it and fixed it before it got locked in. I applied for the CA Rebate ($2500), and of course they noticed it. I took my correspondence back to the delivery center, and asked at the front desk to talk to the top manager but it was too detailed to explain to the droid. Waited about 5 minutes, guy I've never met comes out, we sit down, I show him the correspondence and ask him to just send an email attesting to the fact that there was an error but the car actually was delivered. He said "No problem!". By the time I got home, the email addressed to CA CVRP and cc:ed to me was waiting. He didn't know, when he sat down with me, whether I was a bar of soap or not. Maybe he looked me up afterward, I don't know... but he agreed without hesitation and acted same.

Sorry you found an asshole. But I don't think he'll last all that long at Tesla.
 
Yes, I too lost about $1M over the last year, mostly in options. Still a strong long, deleveraged now. Since the IPO, according to my records, I'm up a few million, but it's mostly sunk into real estate. I have to point out that not all of that was actually TSLA stock/options; the opinions expressed here caused me to get back into AAPL, to get into (and in some cases out of) some other stocks, and taught me a lot. I wish I'd learned about the downside of options a bit sooner, but I was blinded by making a few hundred thousand in one day when (I think it was) Goldman Sachs initiated coverage with a buy and price target well above the current price.
 
Someone asked how this is relevant in the Investor Roundtable. I'm explaining how it's relevant. Tesla needs to stop screwing up before I see my entire TSLA investment go down the toilet!

There is no relation to the company doing well and customers being happy and the price of the stock. You can lean that at head in the sand 101 or TMC group think 360. These classes are offered though the Tesla customer service portal, just create a login and you will get an account email in four months. Cost is $2K per class but only until the end of the quarter.
 
Dude, what's your problem? It's not the cost of the tire.

Oh come on, you know that's what it's all about. Customers want to have poor service and be lied to repeatedly. They want to feel cheated and ripped off and on top of that they want to hold for hours on every call because you can't email someone in 2019. You must wait a week for them to call you back and if you miss the call you start over. How else will you find time to use the video games in the car? I kid you not, I logged my call times, 18 hours total for about 1 hour total cumulative talk time. When you have ratios like that you really feel like an owner and attached to the car like it's part of your soul. Elon gets this, he is connected to us all in the collective.
 
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Service center is not CS. If you call CS and have a basic need or issue it's not a problem. It's when Tesla screws up is when they run and hide, lie, close cases with no response and then treat you like you are a child. Once I resolve my issue with them (i will by some means) I wil post it here however my guess is the force me to sign an NDA to settle which I will also fight. For those that do not think there are serious issues with management in CS and delivery I can tell you that's not the case. For nine months I have been told they would resolve my issue then someone lies and reverses their commitment. I have other words for these people in management but I won't use them here.
Again, I am sorry that your experience has been different than mine, but please read my post - it has not just been at the service center. Do not assume that you know what I have dealt with - they have screwed up (pretty seriously in at least one circumstance), and I have had to deal directly with CS. But, they fixed the issues for me, and they were very professional in doing so. Again, I really am sorry that you are having challenges dealing with Tesla, and I am not trying to minimize the bad experience that you are having and what seems like warranted frustration. But, again, my experiences have been very positive.
 
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