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Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2015
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RobStark
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Difference is these are mainstream models GM is talking about importing from China.
Only large Crossovers will be made in the US for Buick .
Small and Medium crossovers and small,medium, and large sedans from China.
The Chinese love the Buick brand and historic styling like port holes. It is "the Emperor's car." China's last Emperor liked collecting Buicks.
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jhm
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Funny, the Yahoo news feed lists a new start up to challenge Tesla, BMW to challenge Tesla and Audi to challenge Tesla. I sense a theme.
ev-enthusiast
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Same here, I sense a theme.
Here are some quotes from the above mentioned articles:
1. New start up to challenge Tesla (link)
-> Not an issue for Tesla short to mid term.
2. BMW to challenge Tesla (link)
BMW CEO Krueger did not mention all electric power train for an i5, this is only rumour.
The rumour says that BMW aims for an 225php electric engine and 400km range for a BEV. I have the impression that a hybrid or range extended EV would fit current BMW strategy better, pure BEV does not. A long range BEV from BMW would be a paradigm shift. The rumour says that the hybrid aims for 400php combined power, no infos about range. Vehicle is said to not use carbon fiber to the extent as the i3/i8 do. The vehicle class is said to be comparable to a BMW 3 series, thus a lot smaller than a Tesla Model S. Price is said to be a top of the line (400php) BMW 3 series +5000,00EUR. Release date is said to be mid 2019. Some more details about the rumour from AutoBild.
Kruger said on August 6th (AutomotiveNewsEurope):
Same quote from Krueger from Reuters.
-> Not an issue for Tesla short to mid term.
3. Audi to challenge Tesla (link)
So three more years of waiting for Audi's long range BEV (and maybe in three years we'll realize again that there is nothing but a press release and no vehicle at all?!).
-> Not an issue for Tesla short to mid term.
BTW only competition I currently see is from companies like Renovo (nice, worth a visit
), but they only want to sell high price and very low volume, and companies like Foxconn, but they only want to build cheaper cars for the chinese market.
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Yeah, all just concepts and ideas, nothing really with substance to it. See it more as a compliment towards what Tesla has achieved. Also no serious competition from Aston Martin:
Only "advantage" over Model S is 5% more hp - and that is in two years from now at the best.
And as I type, this appears on Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...-lead/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
Couldn´t have said it better.
Oh, and the Audi will have a sliding spoiler and a camera in place of the outside mirrors - wonder where they got that from...
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It looks like the 500th supercharger was slated to be the one in Norfolk, but the ceremony was cancelled due to accidental death of a worker.
ev-enthusiast
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I think the big risk right now is still the lack of information on the actual production ramp of the Model X.
The GCR article pointed to a source, which may be Eds or Eds's source that indicates that Tesla has hand built parts to build up to 1,000 Model X's on hand. But it isn't clear if that's 1,000 for the 2015, 1,000 for the Q3 launch, and so forth. Obviously, if it is 1,000 for 2015, we're in for significant disappointment. If it's 750-1,000 for Q3, we still don't know what the numbers look like for October and November. I'm afraid we're in for some short term excitement for Model X configurator, Model X launch, and PowerWall availability, then the crushing reality of production numbers.
Of course, there's still the risk of people not liking the Model X finished product. I think it is a small risk, but a risk nevertheless. If the cancellation rate of reservations is higher than we assume, then that will be a short term effect. A substantially higher price point than expected would have the same effect.
As a result, options plays right now, especially at this stock price seem to be even more like gambling than normal.
The GCR article pointed to a source, which may be Eds or Eds's source that indicates that Tesla has hand built parts to build up to 1,000 Model X's on hand. But it isn't clear if that's 1,000 for the 2015, 1,000 for the Q3 launch, and so forth. Obviously, if it is 1,000 for 2015, we're in for significant disappointment. If it's 750-1,000 for Q3, we still don't know what the numbers look like for October and November. I'm afraid we're in for some short term excitement for Model X configurator, Model X launch, and PowerWall availability, then the crushing reality of production numbers.
Of course, there's still the risk of people not liking the Model X finished product. I think it is a small risk, but a risk nevertheless. If the cancellation rate of reservations is higher than we assume, then that will be a short term effect. A substantially higher price point than expected would have the same effect.
As a result, options plays right now, especially at this stock price seem to be even more like gambling than normal.
Causalien
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I predict that TSLA will hit about $258, but no timeframe and no guarantee
I appreciate people who appreciates prophets whom set both price and time targets.
doggusfluffy
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Chickenlittle
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audi is setting itself up as a joke
1. you have two, we will do three motors. which company will do 4 motors first
2. better range than the model X. are they testing one now? do you think tesla gave them a car to drive? not even released yet but they know the range
3. they keep announcing over the years future electric cars that never get released.
Todd Burch
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And in the end, range doesn't mean a thing if there's no Supercharging network to support it...
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