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Should I be concerned about occupant privacy with the interior camera?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Neon001, May 16, 2019 at 11:36 AM.

  1. Neon001

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    Soon to be owner here (delivery scheduled for Saturday). Having read the owners manual, I noticed that the car has an interior camera viewing the occupants of the car. They proclaim that it's disabled currently, but does this concern anyone else? If my understanding is correct, they're already collecting all exterior camera information in real time from the entire fleet, so pardon me if I'm leaning towards putting a piece of tape or something over the interior camera lens. I really would rather not be watched while I'm driving the car.

    Anyone else thought about this?
     
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  2. fajitamondays

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    I don't mind it. I like to put on a show, if anybody is watching.

    Like you said, throw some tape up there. :cool:
     
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    It's fair to be concerned. But remember, you have a cell phone, and are most likely on a computer with a camera that's facing you.

    To answer your question, I am not concerned about it, as I'm a LOT happier it's there for the Robotaxi days!
     
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    It's not used for anything currently, but it's easy enough to just put tape over if you're really concerned.
     
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    Maybe one of the Tesla aftermarket accessories companies will come up with a laser-cut decal (with their company's name imprinted) that is designed specifically to be placed over the interior camera for privacy. Worth at least $19.99. ;)
     
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  6. woodisgood

    woodisgood It's walnut, beech

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    If you put a piece of tape over your laptop’s camera, and over your Amazon devices’ mic, and over any other internet-connected camera or mic in your house, then sure. Knock yourself out if it makes you feel better.

    If someone (gov’t, hackers, etc.) REALLY wants to watch and listen to you, there are many ways for them to do it. Tesla, and the interior camera on the Model 3, are the least of your concerns.
     
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    Okay, I guess. I mean, yeah, I do do those things. Maybe not all of them, but most. Primarily because I'm good friends with people that work for the NSA and they do those things. But also because of stuff like this: Amazon sent 1,700 Alexa voice recordings to the wrong user following data request Even a company as dogmatically altruistic as Tesla can have spiteful employees, or have employees that make mistakes

    Granted, it's not the end of the world if some folks at Tesla or somewhere else watch me and my kids chat as I take them to school in the morning, and it's not like I'm stepping out on my wife or having sex in the car (that's been awhile!), but I'd still rather avoid the exposure if I can.

    Sorry, but this is not a good argument. Just because there are other avenues that may be used to gain the same information, doesn't mean this one doesn't present more risk than those others alone (whether significant or not). It's like saying "well, I'm not going to bother to lock my doors, because if someone really wanted to get in my home or car, they could anyway"

    I guess it's good most folks aren't bothered by it.
     
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    I'm not one to cover camera's anywhere else, but the interior cam did weird me out a bit for some reason. A status light or any kind of transparency or published privacy policy would make me feel better. For now, I found one of those little slider covers on Amazon that's a really good match.

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  9. Neon001

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    Good idea, thanks. Do you have a product link to what you're talking about? For some reason I'm getting an error when I try to view your attachment.
     
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    Only a concern if you don't want to be on a "Funniest nose-pickers" video.
     
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  12. woodisgood

    woodisgood It's walnut, beech

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    Ok, since you DO do those things, then I don’t see why you’d leave out the interior cam. Easy enough to cover it.

    Personally, I too am aware of all the nefarious things that could be done by NSA/other agencies, but it’s too deep a rabbit hole to go down for me. My take is if “they” want to waste time to watch my boring life, go right ahead. Nothing even remotely interesting to see here.

    As far as the door-locking analogy, I’d say the interior cam is the third-story window. From an exposure perspective, the GPS location of your vehicle is far more interesting than a video of you picking your nose while driving. :)
     
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  13. JulienW

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    Google it on your CELL phone and then post the findings on Facebook.:D:D:D
     
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    I'm not important enough for anyone to care what I am doing.
     
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    I covered mine up with some black electrical tape. Easy enough.
     
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    Guess it just depends if your gonna do anything interesting.
     
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    As it has been mentioned in other replies, Tesla says it is disabled currently. And as it has been sald also: your cell phone has cameras and you take that to your restroom. if you have a tablet, that also has cameras. If you have a laptop that also, more than likely has cameras.
    It is your car,, feel free to put a little piece of tape over that camera if that brings you comfort.
    I do have tape over my laptop's camera, but that's just because I don't trust my employer LOL

    Just to feed your paranoia a little more: the car also has microphones, aren't you worried on top of video, they also have audio?
     
  18. Neon001

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    Good point!
     
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    Big Brother can shame me all he wants for picking my nose...
     
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    Yeah, but will you survive if a video of you loudly singing a Justin Bieber song shows up on Youtube? :p

    I'd be more concerned that camera images (should the car store any) could potentially be used against you in an insurance case. No harm in covering it for now.
     
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