Fatalblitz
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Okay that could explain it then. Maybe I’ll switch back to Michelins once these run it’s course thanks!continentals runs slightly taller and narrower
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Okay that could explain it then. Maybe I’ll switch back to Michelins once these run it’s course thanks!continentals runs slightly taller and narrower
Those offsets even with a 9.5F and 10.5R might poke out a bit. With a 10" front wheel, a +32 offset should be nice and flush and with 11" rear wheel, +40 to maybe a +38 offset would be flush. With the set-up you have, you'd be quite a bit more aggressive than the stock offset by 24mm F and 25mm R. Some members have similar offset you're asking about and they seem happy.I was just quoted the following specs for the Palladium platform (2021.5):
Front
22x10 +22
Rear
22x11 +26
Before I order the wheels I just want to get a second set of eyes. Do these offsets sound right? I am looking for a flush setup and I plan to run 265/30 | 295/25.
Your wheel selection looks great - and your Porsche rival still beats all including the 918. Well done!
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Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the opinion. I am looking for real world installations and preferably pictures. If anyone has installed the suggested offset's you reference above, I would like to see those too. I find it hard to believe that no one (other than @SignatureWheel who won't share because they have the secret sauce) has specs for proper fitment of 22x10 and 22x11 on the Palladium platform. I really like signature's wheels and may end up going with them, but I like to have options and knowing the proper specs gives us options.Those offsets even with a 9.5F and 10.5R might poke out a bit. With a 10" front wheel, a +32 offset should be nice and flush and with 11" rear wheel, +40 to maybe a +38 offset would be flush. With the set-up you have, you'd be quite a bit more aggressive than the stock offset by 24mm F and 25mm R. Some members have similar offset you're asking about and they seem happy.
Again, I appreciate the replies but when you say "Flush fitment for a Plaid is generally 12-15mm away from hub over stock" are you factoring in that the wheels I am looking at are 10"/11" and not 9.5"/10.5"? And I have seen that photo you reference and think it looks good, but again those are on OE wheels with 9.5/10.5 and the offset is basically the same as I am being quoted (+40/+45 - 20mm spacers = +20/+25). I think you might be right and that is too aggressive.@cmarshack Flush fitment for a Plaid is generally 12-15mm away from hub over stock with a mild drop and maybe 10-12mm at stock ride height. Someone chime in if they disagree. Other variables like tire selection and adjusting camber can come into play as well. The offsets you quoted are unlikely to be "flush" unless you drop the car with a lot of negative camber.
Here is a guy running 20mm spacers all around on the OEM 21s (lowered) and he is what I would call "aggressive flush". Your offsets would be 4-5mm beyond his fitment. --> My First Tesla-2021 Model S Plaid MSM-Pics
Again, I appreciate the replies but when you say "Flush fitment for a Plaid is generally 12-15mm away from hub over stock" are you factoring in that the wheels I am looking at are 10"/11" and not 9.5"/10.5"? And I have seen that photo you reference and think it looks good, but again those are on OE wheels with 9.5/10.5 and the offset is basically the same as I am being quoted (+40/+45 - 20mm spacers = +20/+25). I think you might be right and that is too aggressive.
I don't understand this statement. The plane of the wheel arch is not 12-15mm away from the hub; it's half the width of the wheel (lets say ~125mm) plus/minus the offset. The hub is the plane that the inner side of the wheel is flush with (mounts to). I assume you're saying the wheel arc is 12-15mm away from the wheel face on a stock wheel? As in, with a 12-15mm spacer a stock wheel would sit flush with the wheel arch?When I said "12-15mm away from hub" its irrespective of wheel width - you need to calculate offsets yourself based on your desired widths
I don't understand this statement. The plane of the wheel arch is not 12-15mm away from the hub. The hub is the plane that the inner side of the wheel is flush with (mounts to). I assume you're saying the wheel arc is 12-15mm away from the wheel face on a stock wheel? As in, with a 12-15mm spacer a stock wheel would sit flush with the wheel arch?
Just trying to understand.
Those are interesting sizes - I tried searching but can't find those specs online anywhere. I had these custom made since Volk didn't make a 21" version specific to the model S. My sizes are 21x9 et22 and 21x10 et25 which are close to yours but not as aggressive since I wanted to run stock size tires.Thank you! They’re 20x9.5 +22 / 20x10.5 +25 (if I remember correctly). Either that or the rears could be +30
Lately I've been reading a lot and looking at pics of aftermarket wheels for the Plaid. The factory +40 and +45 offsets on both the 19" and 21" wheels look pretty good right from the factory. The wheels are not perfectly flush with the fenders but it's pretty close actually. Definitely a bit more aggressive fitment (in a good way) on my Plaid with stock 19s compared to the 21" turbine wheels that were on my prior P100D.Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the opinion. I am looking for real world installations and preferably pictures. If anyone has installed the suggested offset's you reference above, I would like to see those too. I find it hard to believe that no one (other than @SignatureWheel who won't share because they have the secret sauce) has specs for proper fitment of 22x10 and 22x11 on the Palladium platform. I really like signature's wheels and may end up going with them, but I like to have options and knowing the proper specs gives us options.
I am sorry, and I don't want to be argumentative, but you literally just contradicted yourself with this statement. The distance you are referring to (12-15mm) is the offset and as you state in the second half of your comment, it is based off of the desired width. So it is not irrespective of wheel width.When I said "12-15mm away from hub" its irrespective of wheel width - you need to calculate offsets yourself based on your desired widths
Those are interesting sizes - I tried searching but can't find those specs online anywhere. I had these custom made since Volk didn't make a 21" version specific to the model S. My sizes are 21x9 et22 and 21x10 et25 which are close to yours but not as aggressive since I wanted to run stock size tires.View attachment 758064View attachment 758065
Do the aerodisc's help with efficiency ? Are they similar to the Aerocaps that came on my plaid with the 19s ?
I am sorry, and I don't want to be argumentative, but you literally just contradicted yourself with this statement. The distance you are referring to (12-15mm) is the offset and as you state in the second half of your comment, it is based off of the desired width. So it is not irrespective of wheel width.
As I stated in my original question I am not going to run 9.5/10.5 stock width so I don't really want to know what the correct offset for the OE wheels. The link you shared was helpful because he is running 20mm spacers on OE wheels which give him effective offsets of 20f/25r (vs 40/45) and offer a very flush fitment. What needs to be calculated is how running a 1" wider wheel effects the needed offset to have the same fitment.
That is what I am trying to get at.
Not seeing much mention of Martian wheels. Anyone have the 20" on their refresh? Pics?
My stock wheels were 19x8.5" square. But if we're comparing them to the stock staggered 21" wheel setup, mine extend 28mm more in the rear and 24mm more in the front.Nice wheels and good fitment.. Based on the info you provided, the pic of your rear wheel is just over 8mm more aggressive than stock.
Edit: sorry it's 13.65mm more aggressive than stock (20mm - 6.35)