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And I'm an engineer who loves Honda

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Than I believe you are a conservative engineer who is slow to innovate and likes boring vehicles.

That's all we want -- a product that works.....That's why I like Honda.... and to be honest - if Tesla adopted some of the lessons Honda has learned over time (Honda was not perfect from the start --- they learned how to adapt to their consumers' needs) I would support them

But I have not seen that from Tesla --- I have not seen Tesla come to realize their customers' concerns.....

I was hoping for a 35K car --- Elon Musk announced he will deliver an 80,000K car --- along with a rocket version
 
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Top 117 Reviews and Complaints about Honda Lawn Mowers

You dont speak like an engineer - all - everyone - every time. I am done wasting my time.

QUOTE="snakeopus121, post: 2812724, member: 62883"]But if I sold you a lawnmower, car, or airplane ---- I could tell you it would start every time you wanted it to start --- and I wouldn't be lieing to you
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The best thing of being a real engineer ---- you learn to not care about what anyone says

You get it or you dont --- I'm sure there are some true engineers on this website but it's getting to the point where the true engineers are jumping the Tesla ship

As for me --- I love what I do ---- and I love the cognitive authority that comes with my position -- and FYI I'm not in the the automotive industry













The real engineers here know what I mean -- :)
 
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Exactly my point. YouTube is not an authority. Thank you for finally recognizing that.

Yes -- but Honda's brand name, and the reliablity assoicated with it, outranks Telsa...

Sorry but you have lost....Tesla still builds cars with 12V system failures, and quality failures not associated with $60 cars (I work at Micron's Manassas facility and there's a blue Model 3 with taillights full of water (it's an Arizona license plate) )

Brand new car with water in its tailights.....
 
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You are on the wrong forum. This is a Tesla enthusiasts forum. The Honda enthusiasts forum is down the hall on the left.

Pardon me --- I thought this was a public transportation forum....

But if you want to restrict the type of people who can access high speed transportation --- lets start that discussion now -- first question is who is eligible for full rights to driving, drivers' license, insurance benefits, etc ---- it's not all rainbows and unicorns
 
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I was thinking he should head over to the 'Moving Goalposts Enthusiasts' forum.

At least those goal posts would result in a better product --- I was a fan -- I hoped the M3 would be the vehicle that I could afford to buy into..

At this point, with the vinyl seats and shitty center screen --- I don't have to worry about Tesla being the first "real" car I purchase in my life...

I have a beautiful EP3 Honda Civic Si I will slowly rebuild as a sweet hatchback.....

Instead of taking out a loan for a Model 3 --- I'm going to swap out the engine of my Honda Si, repaint the entire car with a new clear-coat ---Install a new Pioneer AVIC datacenter/.nav......
 
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