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I would just like to know that I’m getting something in return for my money other than a promise. Would just make me feel better about the purchase. I know it’s ridiculous.
Lot of drama on this thread, ha ha. Anywho, I thought that this section from the Tesla owners site was interesting....
“Blindspot Monitoring
To improve safety and increase confidence when changing lanes, cars with Full Self-Driving hardware will now display a red lane line when your turn signal is engaged and a car or obstacle is detected in your target lane. There is no change to the display for cars without Full Self-Driving hardware.
Tesla cars with Full-Self-Driving hardware will now use all eight cameras, providing a 360-degree view of surrounding cars. “
My new Model 3 (delivered Jan 2019) has the red lane line display functionality....
“Blindspot Monitoring
To improve safety and increase confidence when changing lanes, cars with Full Self-Driving hardware will now display a red lane line when your turn signal is engaged and a car or obstacle is detected in your target lane. There is no change to the display for cars without Full Self-Driving hardware.
Tesla cars with Full-Self-Driving hardware will now use all eight cameras, providing a 360-degree view of surrounding cars. “
My new Model 3 (delivered Jan 2019) has the red lane line display functionality....
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
So does literally every model 3 ever made.... (and every S/X made after October 2016)
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
It has done that a couple of times to me too, but always with reason. Usually a car I didn't see or something else I wasn't aware of. I trust the sensors to see what I don't.
Dan
pitabun
Member
Always a good principle to pay down your loans, it helps to reduce the outstanding balance which includes principal.
If they release that with the same maturity as any of the other features they have released, I bet anyone, that there will be so many crashes and bad reviews everywhere. Just imagine your car driving off at a red light, because it thought it went green...
Best I can think of, is stopping the car at a red light and you have to make it go again, once it's green. But the amount of phantom braking could still be a big problem. There are some cities where I am unsure, which traffic light applies to me. And I don't confuse bridges for cars.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
That depends on many factors- it's certainly not always a good idea.
For example folks who could've paid cash for their car, but got a loan at ~2% or less, would never want to pay the loan down any faster than they have to... (same for those who bought homes that way) since they can get a better return on the money elsewhere, and it means they're paying the loan later with cheaper money due to inflation.
Elon just did a podcast interview and dropped that anyone who ordered FSD will be getting the Tesla Autopilot AI computer. He said it is just about to roll into production. Sounds like it might be a free hardware upgrade with a new chip being installed?
On the Road to Full Autonomy With Elon Musk — FYI Podcast
On the Road to Full Autonomy With Elon Musk — FYI Podcast
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
That's been public info since last year- mentioned by Elon and others many times (including numerous times in this thread)
Meaning legislative approval and such. If it doesn’t hit Texas till 2022 does that mean I have to wait till then for the upgrade. I’d rather pay the 5k as a down payment on a brand new one in that case.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Self driving cars are already legal in Texas.
I believe that it’s NHTSA regulatory approval for Tesla “FSD” (ie. driver supervision by consumers) that is necessary. Personally I don’t think they’ll approve it.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
I don't think NHTSA approval would be needed for driver supervised FSD?
Driver Assistance Technologies
That's the NHTSA on all the current driver assist features out there today... in all cases they didn't "approve" them before they were legal to deploy- no such requirement exists.
They either:
Recommend them as a good idea.
State they don't have any guidance on the feature yet (but it's totally legal to buy and use)
or they REQUIRE them after a certain date (backup cameras as of may 2018 for example)
Right now being able to operate self-driving cars is a patchwork of state-by-state rules... varying from "We haven't even looked into the idea, nothing on the books" to "as long as it follows the same rules a regular driver/car has to it's legal RIGHT NOW"
Jaguar
Member
It looks like Elon has just announced FSD will be available by the end of 2019, but regulatory approval may still hold up its release.
Tesla will release fully self-driving cars in 2019 — with a big asterisk
Tesla will release fully self-driving cars in 2019 — with a big asterisk
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Much like he announced it'd be available by the end of 2018.
After announcing it'd be available by the end of 2017.
Meanwhile the promise of a completely autonomous, cross-country trip in a Tesla is gonna be coming up on its third anniversary soon with no such trip having happened.
I don't doubt there'll be SOME FSD features (maybe sign recognition) this year along with HW3.
Level 5 FSD? No chance in hell.
What seems to me difficult is to mix self driven car and human driven car. It is 2 different world. Also it would work better if cars could communicate with each other. It is something that planes do with a transponder. So in case of risk of collision they will not aggravate the situation.
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