lightningltd
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Ahh... The Microsoft model...Testing? That's a thing that old school companies do. Tesla plays by silicon valley rules, ship it fast and worry about the problems later.
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Ahh... The Microsoft model...Testing? That's a thing that old school companies do. Tesla plays by silicon valley rules, ship it fast and worry about the problems later.
If Tesla tested hardware combinations before releasing code that might be important. We test it for them, in the wild. Especially older cars like the ones impacted here.I'm suspicious that Tesla is nervous about creating new vehicle variants. Once they start putting newer gen batteries into old cars, they are creating new hardware combinations that never existed before, and that increases the number of combinations that have to be tested prior to pushing out new software.
I may be wrong... just a suspicion.
Is it Teslafi that can't connect to the car? Or is it that the car can't connect to Tesla?
I pulled the fuse of the rear left door handle. I afterwards started the 2019.28.2 update and it failed after 7 minutes.
So in case anyone wants to do the same, the fuse is located here (brown, 5A), remember it's best to pull the fuse when the handle is retracted ;-)
The latest 100 kWh battery will fit and work just fine in an old Model S from 2012. The battery and car are designed for that. Tesla has just been very reluctant. As far as I know they only allow same size batteries and they charge a ridiculous price while demanding the old battery back. A Tesla battery pack is worth $12-$18k on the market.
I pulled the fuse of the rear left door handle. I afterwards started the 2019.28.2 update and it failed after 7 minutes.
So in case anyone wants to do the same, the fuse is located here (brown, 5A), remember it's best to pull the fuse when the handle is retracted ;-)
Tesla has installed 90kWH battery packs in 85s in the past, there are some examples of P90s out there once the packs where changed.
I thought the front of the 100 battery extended up a little more due to the higher cell count and that it wouldn't fit in an 85 exactly without some modification to the car.
The 100 kWh pack weighs about 200 pounds more from what i can find.I thought the front of the 100 battery extended up a little more due to the higher cell count and that it wouldn't fit in an 85 exactly without some modification to the car.
I pulled the fuse of the rear left door handle. I afterwards started the 2019.28.2 update and it failed after 7 minutes.
So in case anyone wants to do the same, the fuse is located here (brown, 5A), remember it's best to pull the fuse when the handle is retracted ;-)
Thanks for the info. Could you also check again in a few days? It seems like for those affected who get software updates it takes a while for the BMS to change the cell voltages.
My range is still slowly recovering, 2014 S60, rated has gone from 160 to 168, typical 202 to 212. I monitor via CANBUS every morning, and evening and see a 0.2kWh increase over the day (0.1kWh increments). Still 20 miles to go before I reach my pre 2019.16.x range !
The stock app works fine. So the car is connected. Teslafi responded and said that they deployed a new version of the data logger that should fix it...
But it's still not working
Was looking at a new model S and used chat feature to communicate with Tesla asked them why they changed battery dynamics of older 85's. I also asked what guarantees I have from them changing the capacity of the battery and range in the future. He answered my first question with " It was never our intention to reduce range, it was an update to improve thermal management for our older batteries.
He answered the second with "We periodically update vehicles to ensure they are as safe and high-functioning as possible.
- At the end of the day, we reserve the right to update vehicle software if we become aware of issues that compromise functionality or safety.
The funny thing was they said for thermal management little different. And yes it’s troubling they say they can change the batteries this should be included in the suit against them that any changes to the battery range or performance should be explained first and over a certain % reduction owners be reimbursed.So basically if they need to cap the batteries range from 40% to 60% (i.e. a total of 80%), then they're fine with that?