Supercharger - Valleyview, AB

[floatplane]

Concerning the conduits, we do know that with new V3/V4-compatible pedestal bases that there is a second larger conduit used compared to v2/v3 installations. I can't tell from the one photo whether the pedestal base seen matches what I've seen on other threads where we know it's the new type. They really don't look the same to me.

Given that, the Tesla new concrete pedestal base is compatible with both v3 and v3 pedestals, so maybe *ALL* Tesla installations from now on will have the larger conduit in place ready for future upgrade to full v4. Would that also explain part of the reason for the oversized transformer? Is there any evidence that confirms this is Tesla even, like a permit or info from Tesla find us? I'm not on FB to check what the Alberta user group has posted.

 

[Hugh Mannity]

it would be a long ish stretch to do Edmonton to Valleyview in the dead of winter. I don't think my old MS would make it. Assume another site is coming soon in Whitecourt or somewhere else half way ?

 

[Mrbrock]

Concerning the conduits, we do know that with new V3/V4-compatible pedestal bases that there is a second larger conduit used compared to v2/v3 installations. I can't tell from the one photo whether the pedestal base seen matches what I've seen on other threads where we know it's the new type. They really don't look the same to me.

Given that, the Tesla new concrete pedestal base is compatible with both v3 and v3 pedestals, so maybe *ALL* Tesla installations from now on will have the larger conduit in place ready for future upgrade to full v4. Would that also explain part of the reason for the oversized transformer? Is there any evidence that confirms this is Tesla even, like a permit or info from Tesla find us? I'm not on FB to check what the Alberta user group has posted.

Larger? I don’t think so. The large conduit is still 4” for V3 and V4. Where some V4 differs is a second smaller (1-2”) conduit.

Also, these are not the new V3/V4 bases. These are either poured in place or something different. Note the striations on top of the latest X post. Also, look at this pic from the Bakersfield V4 site. Note there are 4 bolts for mounting the charging post and 3 sleeves on one end for a bollard or sign. That’s it. Not sleeves for bollards on each end. They are precast so they are all identical so this layout doesn’t fit. The top is also smooth.

 

[Asad Chaudhary]

it would be a long ish stretch to do Edmonton to Valleyview in the dead of winter. I don't think my old MS would make it. Assume another site is coming soon in Whitecourt or somewhere else half way ?

Yep - I wouldn’t count on making 350 km from Edmonton at prairie highway speeds of 120 kph in my new MY LR even in summer. Really hoping Whitecourt is announced soon.

 

[Jack007]

Yep - I wouldn’t count on making 350 km from Edmonton at prairie highway speeds of 120 kph in my new MY LR even in summer. Really hoping Whitecourt is announced soon.

You could try 100kph, that's got to be 15% more efficient.

 

[Mrbrock]

Looks like 4 stalls and a single charging cabinet. That’s a pretty big transformer, so likely sized for future expansion of some sort - perhaps third party like Flo.

https://x.com/pandher099/status/1713719147304235264?s=46&t=_Rh-YqQ1h_5jSZyhBgf4BA

Still nothing concrete.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715467455928373593

 

[PLUS EV]

Still nothing concrete.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715467455928373593

The lamppost bases appear to be concrete.

 

[Mrbrock]

The lamppost bases appear to be concrete.

Nothing that looks like Tesla equipment.

 

[Asad Chaudhary]

You could try 100kph, that's got to be 15% more efficient.

You could try 100kph, that's got to be 15% more efficient.

But see: Supercharger - Whitecourt, AB

 

[Xelloss99]

Drive Tesla Canada's X Feed has an update:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719137730662379794

While the photo isn't of great quality, it's a 4-stall V3 Supercharger.

 

[Mrbrock]

Kind of an unusual conduit layout for Superchargers. What say you @Mrbrock?

With new pictures, definitely a different build out and layout of conduit and cast in place bases. Be interesting to see if this is just a regional thing with this contractor or if Canada is requiring bollards on both sides of the pedestals so it requires a different base.

 

[pb2000]

Strange to see a picture of superchargers in a photo style that looks straight out of the 70's. A switchgear cabinet means expansion, which would only make sense if connecting Alaska was on the 3 year plan. Uncle Sam did some nice work on the original Alaska highway thru Canada, so can we expect some of that sweet inflation reduction act $$$, just so you can visit your crazy relatives? (or wilderness, whatever floats your boat)

 

[Mrbrock]

Strange to see a picture of superchargers in a photo style that looks straight out of the 70's. A switchgear cabinet means expansion, which would only make sense if connecting Alaska was on the 3 year plan. Uncle Sam did some nice work on the original Alaska highway thru Canada, so can we expect some of that sweet inflation reduction act $$$, just so you can visit your crazy relatives? (or wilderness, whatever floats your boat)

Are you sure switchgear means expansion? There aren’t too many 4 stall V3 sites in the US to compare to but I don’t know of any sites without switchgear. There needs to be a panel with breakers somewhere before the SC cabinets. So there would at least have to be a separate meter and panel so why not use an switchgear cabinet to make or more tidy? Also, if there are any L2 chargers as part of this there would need to be another panel.

 

[pb2000]

The pictures at Milk river don't show anything, but that now closed site in Iowa, LA shows just a tiny little breaker cabinet for each 4 banger prefab. Also keep in mind the massively oversized transformer.

 

[PLUS EV]

This is the lone picture I took at Milk River.

 

[pb2000]

Maybe a small cabinet bolted to the side of the supercharger cabinet? The Valleyview one looks easily double if not triple the size.

 

[Xelloss99]

Most of the Western Canada Superchargers (recent are 6+) do have a seperate switch cabinet. My pictures from Milk River aren"t clear either (it also has 2 Tesla's obscuring it) but it's meter (and probably breakers) are on a big box bolted on the left side of the Supercharger cabinet (you can see the box which isn't quite the full height of the cabinet on the picture above).

 

[Xelloss99]

Switchgear cabinet -12 stall V3 Edmonton Currents Drive

 

[Asad Chaudhary]

This is the lone picture I took at Milk River.

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Was just there last week - when the whole area is snowed in, hard to navigate to that uncleared patch. In deeper snow, would be hard to access - I hope Tesla has snow removal contractor lined up, since this patch of pavement doesn't touch any other pavement or road.

 

[AudubonB]

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Dang. That looks like a 1970s Ektachrome print-from-slide. Even has “Esso” in the background.