conman
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We got early access to the most Elon promises.There's no actual proof or even strong evidence to indicate that FSD purchasers will get early access to anything.
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We got early access to the most Elon promises.There's no actual proof or even strong evidence to indicate that FSD purchasers will get early access to anything.
So when people here start posting about getting upgrades you'll call them all liars? Seriously? Some people....I'll believe it when I see it being done on my car.
FSD computer upgrades only being installed in X and S for now. AP apparently much smoother.
How is this different from being a patiently waiting AP2.5 owner? The promises are identical. And no distinction has ever been made as to whether you purchased at order time or otherwise.Patiently waiting to hear what they’re going to do about AP2 owners who purchased FSD at order time...
yesBy the way, are you the same @greentheonly on twitter??
So when people here start posting about getting upgrades you'll call them all liars? Seriously? Some people....
Other than the fact that 1) if you purchased FSD at order time of a HW2 vehicle you've waited longer and 2) that there are significant differences in the upgrade ease for HW2 and HW2.5, your rhetorical question is a pretty solid argument that "if time didn't exist and if different things were the same, then things would be different."How is this different from being a patiently waiting AP2.5 owner? The promises are identical. And no distinction has ever been made as to whether you purchased at order time or otherwise.
Is "wanting to believe" a good source?Smoother, any source for that?
I'm truly surprised you are willing to drive a Tesla if you trust them that little. You do realize they know who you are and where you live, right? They might put gremlins in your software. They could leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. They could autonomously drive you to your doom and leave no trace. Nobody would ever know.No. I will try and find out when they paid for FSD or if they’re an employee or someone with a big social media presence, to see if Tesla is doing things with any sort of method or if it’s the usual chaotic haphazard foolishness.
But until my car gets upgraded, I’m not going to believe they’ll actually do it.
I'm truly surprised you are willing to drive a Tesla if you trust them that little. You do realize they know who you are and where you live, right? They might put gremlins in your software. They could leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. They could autonomously drive you to your doom and leave no trace. Nobody would ever know.
I can see you've thought it through very clearly.
I like the car. I dislike the lies and lack of transparency from the company.
Oh, I'm not obtuse. I just lack patience for this brand of disingenuous foolishness.Don't be obtuse.
If you don't trust the company, you obviously shouldn't be driving a car that they control. Giving best estimates and being wrong is not lying. All you'll ever get from Musk is best estimates on what he is currently planning, which is more transparency than you'll get from most companies. But of course he changes his plans regularly. That's one of his strengths. If you don't like that, don't eat their cooking. It's really not hard. Constantly complaining that they don't plan accurately years in advance is just tiresome.I like the car. I dislike the lies and lack of transparency from the company.
Giving best estimates and being wrong is not lying.
All you'll ever get from Musk is best estimates on what he is currently planning, which is more transparency than you'll get from most companies. But of course he changes his plans regularly. That's one of his strengths. If you don't like that, don't eat their cooking. It's really not hard. Constantly complaining that they don't plan accurately years in advance is just tiresome.
This has been a quote that has been common in Tesla related user groups and Reddit/forums for many years now. More and more people seem to subscribe to that thinking.
Can’t blame them. There is a lot to appreciate in the BEV revolution Tesla helped to the world but darn the company has gotten terrible in recent years.
It’s incredibly frustrating to have to decide between inferior autonomy and range from other companies, or inferior creature comforts and support from Tesla... but maybe the other companies can learn. Or maybe Tesla can get their crap together and fix their honesty issues and also offer better seats. Time will tell I guess.
There is a story on Reddit that someone's X got upgraded to HW3 when they were in service on an unrelated issue.thats my understanding. I think this priority is to employees first to gauge/refine the process of the retrofit service before expanding to all the FSD purchasers. Tech today said it doesn’t require a full tear down of the dash like the screen replacement. But caveated he hasn’t done it yet. Wouldn’t get too excited that it’s coming within the next few weeks, but does make it look promising that it is en route.
If you were in to replacing your old Prius - the only competitive offering was the newer Prius for over a decade, despite numerous "Prius killers".I’m really looking forward to seeing the competition’s offerings when it comes time to replace my model 3. The Taycan is a huge disappointment so that’s off my list, but maybe one of the upcoming Audis or VWs will hit the right notes.