Yeah not sure about the headlights but overall I like the design. I do wonder how they plan to do a 180kWh pack.
They are using a different chemistry. You can tell because the 180kWh version has less power available and accelerates slower...
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Yeah not sure about the headlights but overall I like the design. I do wonder how they plan to do a 180kWh pack.
Who will save the Italian government?For a long time I have predicted that the first major victim for this transition to BEV will be Fiat-Chrysler. Well, the Italian government will probably save Fiat, but I don't know how it will go with Chrysler. And that saddens me...
i wonder if Elon doesn't really want to solve the USB issue and drive people to stream audio and video. Long term, with self driving, Tesla Streaming services could have millions of captive customers. Maybe not as big a market as cars, but to have 1-2 hours of daily engagement of the average owner\user, could be a pretty darn big market.Serious question: how old are you?
I haven't used a USB key since 2011 and I'm in my early 30's and worked at multiple software editing company as PM / sales / marketing manager. I also don't use cloud services (neither for music, movies or files except for work) as I much prefer the simplicity and ubiquity of Syncthing to have my data synced in real time between all my devices.
Who plug things for data, nowadays?
First of all, I don't think you understand the concept of safe stopping distances... which mean 180 feet minimum. In other words, you can't match a two-track train capacity using one tunnel each way (i.e. two tracks). You'll need two tracks each way (i.e. four tracks).You've given me too many likes lately, so I need to balance things out.
NYC subway subway stats per Wikipedia:
Car holds 250 people
Train has 8 to 11 cars
Average speed is 17 MPH (top speed 55)
Departure rate, 2-5 minutes
So 10 car train at 17 MPH moves 10×250×17 = 42,500 people miles per minute.
At 16 people per pod, and a speed of 60 MPH, it would take 44 pods to equal that rate.
At every 3 minutes, distance between trains is 4,488 feet. Pod nose to nose spacing would need to be 102 feet, if only a single tunnel were used.
424 unique stations. NYC is 303 sq miles, so average coverage is 1 station per 0.71 square miles or a square 0.85 miles per side. So worst case average distance would be around 2,200 ft. 3-7 blocks depending on orientation. A pod station every block would have a density 21 times higher, thus reducing the usage of each. If the sub was every 3 minutes per train, and it takes 44 pods with 21x stations, that puts it at about 1.5 minutes per elevator. Mini stations at buildings would be smart.
First of all, I don't think you understand the concept of safe stopping distances... which mean 180 feet minimum. In other words, you can't match a two-track train capacity using one tunnel each way (i.e. two tracks). You'll need two tracks each way (i.e. four tracks).
Have you accounted for the fact that people have to get in and out of the pods? I realize that Musk's scheme is to have offline loading and unloading (meaning, two extra tracks at every station). If you have frequent stops, you then need two extra tracks everywhere.
(If you don't have offline loading and unloading, you end up with a low average speed for the pods. Same reason average speed is low on the trains: frequent stops.)
So, in order to try to match the capacity of a two-track railroad, you're building tunnels sufficient for a six-track railroad.
But of course a six-track railroad has more than three times the capacity of a two-track railroad. (Because it's normally operated local, semi-express, express)
So now that you're comparing capital costs to a subway with six tracks, you have to triple the capacity to match the trains. Since we've already determined that you can barely match the capacity of a two-track railroad, I think we don't need to run through this exercise any further. And you are building an insanely large number of stations, so your capital costs will be even higher.
But, y'know, building expensive tunnels and then wasting most of their capacity by putting cars in them, and subsidizing this waste with taxpayer money, that's a thing. So maybe they'll do it. (Again.) It's just economically dumb.
I like the design, but I think they should be able to get more range out of the 105kW pack...
Now, 230 miles is more than enough range for my use-case (weekend home depot runner), but I'm not willing to shell out $69k for that. I do hope others will.
Any chemistry I'm familiar with is still going to be heavy and bulky. I guess this frame is thick enough to allow a double layer, so 2 90kWh packs stacked up, (thinking in Tesla terms, they could use a different format with just taller pouch cells), and then the weight carrying capacity would probably be reduced somewhat.They are using a different chemistry. You can tell because the 180kWh version has less power available and accelerates slower...
I guess this frame is thick enough to allow a double layer, so 2 90kWh packs stacked up,
The 230 mile range is for the 105 kWh pack that starts at ~$50k.
For $69k you get 135 kWh pack with 300 plus miles of range and motor power upgraded from 300 kW to 562 kW. Probably some differences for the cabin and tech features too.
The price for the 180 kWh pack has not been released.
Like Tesla, the middle and top spec versions will be made before the base versions.
BTW I have waited ~3 years to post that meme.
~$50k does sound better, it appears many were reporting incorrectly that $69k (GreenCarReports) was the base price.
I assure you, you are the first to use that meme in a reply to me
Do the Rivian battery pack prices look optimistic to anyone else?
They plan to ship the midsize and large pack November 2020.
And the small pack November 2021.
Prices drop an average of ~6% per year.
Rivian isn't funding all the non-automotive R&D nor a Supercharger Network that Tesla funds.
And I don't think Rivian will be leaving pennies on the table for the altruistic reasons.
They might plug into many of the Tesla suppliers, which already have economies of scale because of Tesla.
I still think it's optimistic given Tesla's fight to get production costs down over the years. I'm sure they will use cheaper batteries in two years, but there's no way they will get Tesla rates for their batteries and these are huge packs. The announcement was Rivian's Model S unveil. Now they actually have to start a car company.
That is OT here, try the political sub-forumWho will save the Italian government?