DaveBC
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Did I? It’s getting funny because I thought you missed the point.You missed the point.
Please attempt to enlighten me of your point of view.
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Did I? It’s getting funny because I thought you missed the point.You missed the point.
It's funny this thread is called "Tesla coercing software updates!?!" because when users refuse to update their cars they are effectively "corercing" Tesla to keep supporting old legacy code and infrastructure that may otherwise be depreciated and also takes away software engineer's time to work on new code and keeping the codebase in good order.
As a software engineer it seriously grinds my gears to see this thread… Software updates are there for reason. Just keep your damn cars up to date. I feel bad for the engineers that need to keep legacy code mixed in just because some people don't like a few changes here and there to their software experience.
TL;DR: Just update your damn car.
You missed the point.
as an experienced software engineer myself, this is exactly why I refuse updates. If there is something critical they are fixing, it should be part of the release notes. Most of their releases now are about nerfing capabilities and taking features away. Since their release notes are typically completely 'blank', I see absolutely no compelling reason to update.
What actually percentage of software updates are “nerfing capabilities and taking features away”? Or is this just conjecture?
No, it's you who is missing the very valid point.
Given that this is a new use of technology - updating vehicles away from service centres - Tesla has been cut a lot of slack but it's past time now to look again at the issue.
What's to stop Tesla issuing two levels of updates? One that updates the number of farts the thing can access, and one that prevents charging fires, for example?
Seems pretty much a no-brainer to me.
I'm not sure about %, however sometimes 1 is enough. What if your car was out of warranty, then a update no longer let you charge or drive your car unless you buy a new battery? And no explanation why the battery is no longer usable and needs to be replaced for 17k? Would you really care how many % of updates nerf?
I can point to an old post of mine, if that helps. It's really a partial list of things off the top of my head at the time.Sure you can "What if" anything. Like this: What if the software update made the car even better?
I'm asking for facts about which updates actually "nerfed capabilities and/or took features away". Not interested in "what ifs". From what I've seen, I only recall software updates that have made Teslas better cars overall. I'm genuinely wondering what the issue is with updating Tesla software.
Sure you can "What if" anything. Like this: What if the software update made the car even better?
I'm asking for facts about which updates actually "nerfed capabilities and/or took features away". Not interested in "what ifs". From what I've seen, I only recall software updates that have made Teslas better cars overall. I'm genuinely wondering what the issue is with updating Tesla software.
Wow, I'm a real dinosaur with my 2018.32.4 software, huh. I don't remember getting that message yet in my car (NOTE: my memory bites), but darn, I presumably will get it or at least will be affected by the change, notice or no. Bummer.
the problem is you now have openvpn process needlessly draining cpu and wasting emmc writes by doing tons of logging about how it cannot connect to the mothership, though.Thread bump!
Looks like Tesla lived up to their promise. I went to update my software today from 2019.32.2.2 and, doh! I can't!
I even put the car on wifi, and still no updates.
You'd think they would leave the last viable version (2019.42.2.3) staged to install, but I don't have that either.
But all other functions are normal: App access, streaming, voice commands, etc.
the problem is you now have openvpn process needlessly draining cpu and wasting emmc writes by doing tons of logging about how it cannot connect to the mothership, though.
But yes, anything above 19.8.x would retain full functionality otherwise.