Tesla making HUGE mistake with Superchargers

[ZenRockGarden]

Tesla leaks ‘Magic Dock’ CCS adapter ahead of opening its Supercharger network

Tesla has leaked the “Magic Dock” CCS adapter in its mobile app ahead of the imminent opening of its Supercharger network in North America.

electrek.co

 

[MP3Mike]

And it appears that we are seeing the first public install of the MagicDock at the Verona, NY Supercharger:

From Reddit.

 

[KJD]

And it appears that we are seeing the first public install of the MagicDock at the Verona, NY Supercharger:

From Reddit.

I hope they work out well and they start installing these MagicDocks all over the place.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

I hope they work out well and they start installing these MagicDocks all over the place.

Not if people have to park like that to use them.

 

[RTPEV]

I was hoping they would put them on new hardware where they solved the orientation and/or cable length problem, but it appears to not be the case. I am pro-Magic Dock, but not in a retrofit case.

 

[KJD]

Not if people have to park like that to use them.

It would be much less of a problem if Tesla would start building more pull thru sites, like Seaside OR.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/image-jpeg.183765/

 

[israndy]

So much for the theory that they were gonna just open the one charger on the end so that cars can either take the Tesla space or the one next to it if their car has the plug on the wrong side.

Not sure why that Y is parked like it is, perhaps this was their way of closing the Supercharger during the upgrade.

 

[MP3Mike]

Not sure why that Y is parked like it is, perhaps this was their way of closing the Supercharger during the upgrade.

I suspect you are correct, and it is the same with the Rivian. They are in the process of upgrading and testing the site. (You can see stall shells laying on the ground and leaned up against other things.)

 

[RTPEV]

Yeah, the reddit comments indicated that those vehicles were there doing the install/testing and possibly intentionally blocking the pedestals from view (although I doubt that's the case because as soon as they leave for the day it's not like people won't be there taking all kinds of pictures!)

 

[MP3Mike]

So much for the theory that they were gonna just open the one charger on the end so that cars can either take the Tesla space or the one next to it if their car has the plug on the wrong side.

I don't know where that theory came from... I've never seen Tesla open less than an entire Supercharger site. (I don't think they will play any games with only opening one, or 4, stalls at any given site. Same for NEVI funding, they will either make every stall at a site NEVI compliant, or they won't take any money for the site.)

 

[RTPEV]

I don't know where that theory came from... I've never seen Tesla open less than an entire Supercharger site.

To be fair, this is kind of an unprecedented situation here...if you're comparing it to Europe, that's different because the hardware is the same for all stalls, whereas here there is an additional piece of hardware that is required.

I suppose you could compare to the initial rollout of CCS in Europe. IIRC (and I may not be), they only added CCS cords to some of the stalls at each site (at least at first) and asked S & X drivers to leave the CCS stalls open for the (new at the time) Model 3's.

 

[israndy]

I don't know where that theory came from... I've never seen Tesla open less than an entire Supercharger site. (I don't think they will play any games with only opening one, or 4, stalls at any given site. Same for NEVI funding, they will either make every stall at a site NEVI compliant, or they won't take any money for the site.)

Don't know where your justification comes from, like @RTPEV says, this situation has never happened before so everyone was guessing. If they did open just one stall it would make the CCS users feel right at home, most CCS sites only have the one.

As to NEVI funding, I believe they only need to provide 4 CCS chargers per location to qualify, so I don't know why you think they'll do all or won't take the money. Could provide 16 stalls of which 4 are CCS compatible. Again, everyone is just guessing unless you work for Tesla.

 

[RTPEV]

If they did open just one stall it would make the CCS users feel right at home, most CCS sites only have the one.

But come on now, wouldn't a more accurate install be installing 4 Magic Docks and having 3 of them not work?

 

[MP3Mike]

As to NEVI funding, I believe they only need to provide 4 CCS chargers per location to qualify, so I don't know why you think they'll do all or won't take the money. Could provide 16 stalls of which 4 are CCS compatible. Again, everyone is just guessing unless you work for Tesla.

Because if they didn't make all of the stalls NEVI compliant it would require a weird power sharing setup. And without transformer/grid upgrades it would disadvantage the non-NEVI stalls when the site was busy. (Why I think it is doubtful they will even bother with NEVI at all, other than maybe for new sites in remote areas.)

 

[threeputts]

But come on now, wouldn't a more accurate install be installing 4 Magic Docks and having 3 of them not work?

Is there a TMC post of the week award?

 

[KJD]

Looks like a 2nd Magic Dock location has been found in Brewster NY.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629468776507777025

 

[RTPEV]

Looks like Red Hook, NY as well (at least as of this writing, the video hasn't been deleted):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629503463510908928

 

[MP3Mike]

MagicDock being installed in Fort Worth, TX:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686526868105699328

 

[threeputts]

Wonder if that’s a new install or retrofit of existing pedestals.

 

[MP3Mike]

Wonder if that’s a new install or retrofit of existing pedestals.

Sort of both? It is a retrofit of the Fort Worth, TX - Eastchase Parkway site which only opened 35 days ago.

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