A 400 mile Model 3 would probably sell well here in the states. Don't know specs but supposedly made for China market.
Tesla nears debut of new 400-mile China-made Model 3
Tesla nears debut of new 400-mile China-made Model 3
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Tesla nears debut of new 400-mile China-made Model 3
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"The vehicle would have a range of more than 650 kilometers (404 miles) on one charge, compared with about 450 kilometers for the current most basic version that starts at 323,800 yuan ($45,800), the people said, asking not to be identified as the information isn’t public."
...."the people said", not the best source
...."the people said", not the best source
Msjulie
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In China they use the NEDC cycle. You have to divide by 1.43 to get the approx EPA equivalent.
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Not sure why the Tesla numbers don't seem to correlate well. China's LR model is 370mi NEDC, and the US 322mi EPA. That's a 15% difference. The smaller model difference is only 11%. Maybe I remembered the conversion number wrong, maybe it's only around 13%. Still, if you apply that conversion, you get around 355miles EPA. I must be doing something wrong.
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Not sure why the Tesla numbers don't seem to correlate well. China's LR model is 370mi NEDC, and the US 322mi EPA. That's a 15% difference. The smaller model difference is only 11%. Maybe I remembered the conversion number wrong, maybe it's only around 13%. Still, if you apply that conversion, you get around 355miles EPA. I must be doing something wrong.
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Msjulie
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Electric700
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Thanks, this is good news and I hope they will start making these soon here in the US.
MXLRplus
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I wonder if they could lighten Chinese cars because they don't need to pass FMVSS / NHTSA guidelines.
C&D just reported on this too. They said it could get EPA rated range of 365 miles. Who knows if anything is true until it releases though.
Longer-Range Tesla Model 3 Coming Soon to China: Report
Longer-Range Tesla Model 3 Coming Soon to China: Report
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MXLRplus
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probably the worst air pollution I ever experienced was in China. Worse than even LA on a bad summer day in the 1970's. Some cities I thought it was snowing when the plane landed. Turned out it was soot and ash.
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Even though Tesla China lists the range figure as "new national standard cycle" it's suppose to be the same as NEDC, that's why originally imported SR+s were advertised of having 480km of range, however since domestic production started the ranges have been revised down to 445km (well 445km is on domestic LG Chem batt while original imported Panasonic cells will yield 455km), the imported LR is listed at 590km and P3D is at 595km. This means they can't really be NEDC, but more closely resembles WLTP cycle. If P3D is listed as 595km simply a new rear wheel drive LR model with the same 74kwh battery will yield the reported 650km range.
This would be plausible since each 25kWh gives roughly 100 miles. Adding another 25kWh would land the range right around the 405 that is being rumored.
WilliamG
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That would likely need a significant car redesign when increasing battery capacity by 33.3%. Unlikely.
Was the Nissan leaf significantly redesigned when they went from 24kWh to 30kWh? Or the new leaf went from 40kWh to 62kWh battery???
How about the increase in capacity for the Model S and X?
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WilliamG
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I don’t know? You tell me! How much free space is there under the floor of a Model 3?
In all seriousness, with the Leaf Nissan was able to increase the density of the pack. It’s always possible Tesla has managed something similar but their battery tech was already miles ahead of Nissan’s so... who knows.
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