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Tesla sales continue downwards trend in Europe
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I believe they cycle between 30-60% or something ridiculous, so very unstrained, and degradation ‘hiding’ is very easy with such a small range of used SOC. 200K+ miles in any Toyota/Lexus hybrid should be just running it in.
I’m all for a bit of fanboysim, but claiming Tesla makes more reliable cars than Toyota……..than again some believe the world is flat still don’t they
.The 200,000-mile question: How does the Toyota Prius hold up?
Hybrids like the Toyota Prius may save money on fuel, but car shoppers have long wondered how those batteries hold up over the long run. In fact, we're often asked,
www.consumerreports.org
I believe that Toyota Hybrids have been using NiMH batteries, not Lithium ion, so direct comparisons are not even possible ...
I do not know... but in reality, if battery is dead, prius will still go.
I had Mondeo hybrid, same system as prius in essence. Battery was ok 4 years later and i never ever though about "what will happen if battery is dead".
well, to anyone saying tesla is reliable, I could show my service history 2 years/50k miles in... ;DI believe they cycle between 30-60% or something ridiculous, so very unstrained, and degradation ‘hiding’ is very easy with such a small range of used SOC. 200K+ miles in any Toyota/Lexus hybrid should be just running it in.
I’m all for a bit of fanboysim, but claiming Tesla makes more reliable cars than Toyota……..than again some believe the world is flat still don’t they
The 200,000-mile question: How does the Toyota Prius hold up?
Hybrids like the Toyota Prius may save money on fuel, but car shoppers have long wondered how those batteries hold up over the long run. In fact, we're often asked,www.consumerreports.org
I’ve had relatively little service done in the 7+ years and 116k miles. Mine has been reliable so far. Never not started.
Unless they changed it, Prius will not go if battery is dead.
Most of the time the hybrid battery is used at start-up.
Even if it could skip it and run off the engine, ultimately the 12V would die because it's charged from the hybrid battery using an DC-DC convertor
Why would they pay?
think this way - if it's 10p per kwh more... then if you charge 50 kwh - then difference is 5 gbp.
you would need charge at least TWICE for full battery a month to make it worth
most of people use such facilities once a month at max...
Agreed. For most with home charging which is I suspect most EV owners currently, unless you do a lot of long trips regularly then it’s not worth subscribing as you’ll use public charging rarely. It’s already cheaper than others even without the sub.
So nobody pays ?....that seems unlikely. Some people must pay on a regular continuous basis....others on a as needed basis...but with over a million non Tesla electric car owners it must add up to a worthwhile income stream...plus of course the premium the non subscription holders pay at the super chargers
Of course some pay but I wouldn’t figure it’s a lot.
There are other charging companies people can use and some cars come with discounted charging cards for other networks. Or maybe your car is 800V so it’ll charge much faster on other networks vs using a 400V Tesla Supercharger.
Subscription money is nice of course, it’s not going to be that much though in the scheme of things. They’ll make more off premium connectivity I imagine.
I think people are missing my point…while getting an income stream from your own customers is normal..,Tesla also gets it from their rivals…pundits are saying that in the US this could be billions…so it stands to reason that it could also be significant in Europe and Britain
I would be really surprised if that would be billions.
OK, in US the situation with 3rd party networks is a bit worse. Sure. and this might be incentive to use it.
but is there much of an incentive to pay 10-11 usd per month just because you might need to use it?
It most likely will be in something like FSD uptake, which is less than 10% of users, really
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TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Stock market pricing goes up and down quite wildly - hence Warren Buffet said:
Being in a Tesla bubble helps with keeping current and avoiding media misreporting. None of this is secret, not even hidden, one just has to go to original sources and avoid misreporting & deliberately amygdala-stimulating nonsense headlines (that don't even match with the article).
Boring Company are currently doing a few tunnels, have plans for 68 miles in Vegas alone. Resorts World is connected and they're going for a long run from Virgin Hotel. They are of course near completion of the under-road tunnel near Gigatexas.
His social media company has greater use than ever before with much lower costs and rolls out features quicker. Counter-argument might be about advertising revenue
Source for 2024 date for Mars? I can see a BBC newsround report when I search - that was made in 2016. That's a long time ago to predict anything. Pre-covid and Elon is known to be aspirational on timelines. Also FAA & other regulators have been very slow to do surveys, review them and approve. Hence why Florida seems to be favoured by some / most future SpaceX Starship launches.
Starlink huge success - money printer.
Neuralink described by first patient in many videos. View his twitter x.com
I like this post (changed spelling deliberately)"T-w-i-t-t-e-r banned me because they thought I was a bot, @X and @elonmusk reinstated me because I am." Interesting tweet on 5th May where he's streaming/video and you can see how things are going. He's a great chess player (and video game player) and could probably beat most people without use of his limbs. Astounding.
Lots of FUD around some threads retracting - so Neuralink tweaked software and his bit-rate is higher than when first implanted. Other lessons will have been learned for next patient. Plans to sync up brain with relays to limbs, bypassing spine. True hope for many quadriplegics and others. Churlish to over-criticise in my opinion.
As I'm sure people have said before - Hyperloop was written for others to do as Elon Musk said he was too busy. A few tried (notably Virgin) - if Elon ever tries, I suspect it will work... but be late.
I have to go now - but if you don't know about Tesla's AI - I despair. Just search for latest 100 million inference computers for cars (showing still has car ambitions).
There was a little knocking and defending of Toyota a little while back in this thread ....
www.bbc.com
Toyota: World's largest carmaker raided over safety scandal
Toyota has apologised for providing incorrect or manipulated data for safety certification tests.
www.bbc.com
I’m also trying to find the link about a British NGO who did a survey by sending out sixteen fake news items about the Irish elections...Tik Toc reported them all, YouTube blocked 14 of them....X blocked them all and suspended the false accounts.....
SMMT data is out and for the first time in a long time Tesla aren’t in the top 10 for the month or year to date
Tesla sales are down 8% on last May and 12.5% down YTD compared to last year.
In comparison BEV overall is up 6% for the month and 10% YTD . Tesla’s market share has fallen by nearly 20% from just shy of 2.5 to under 2%
Tesla sales are down 8% on last May and 12.5% down YTD compared to last year.
In comparison BEV overall is up 6% for the month and 10% YTD . Tesla’s market share has fallen by nearly 20% from just shy of 2.5 to under 2%
well it can be only positives... according some
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