Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Todd Burch]

By the look of how much calls have gone up across exp and strikes, we're not gonna stop here. Not by a long shot.

What do you mean by "not gonna stop here"?

 

[2daMoon]

From MMD to a game of whack-a-mole. Still amazing to watch a $650 billion plus market cap company get so manipulated.

When a single company is threatening established players in Oil, Energy, and Auto simultaneously there are a lot of deep pockets to draw from.

 

[dl003]

What do you mean by "not gonna stop here"?

We have to go up. Too much money are betting on calls for us to fizzle out here.
This can become invalid when I see call IVs begin to crush but not right now.

 

[jbcarioca]

And you're still an Apple investor because...???

For me it is because I don't want to pay so much capital gains and anyway I live on the dividends. Besides they keep performing despite the critics.

 

[elasalle]

How come we have Apple car news at times when Tesla pops?

+Gates was on it, so is Cook on it as well ?

 

[woodisgood]

Green energy selling off today while FAANG is up. Might be why the second-stage is failing to ignite.

Or manipulation...

 

[goinfraftw]

How come we have Apple car news at times when Tesla pops?

Increases EV market size, increases Tesla's market potential

 

[TheTalkingMule]

I know that does not answer the question. However, on balance I am quite confident that TE will be profitable for the full year 2021 and may well be profitable in each quarter. There are numerous not-yet-disclosed elements, all of which seem likely to be positive contributors.

When you step back and look at how Tesla is pushing into markets like residential solar, and compare it to everyone else......it's mind-blowing how different their tactics are. And Tesla efforts are built to be sustainable at scale, but make very little financial sense when taken as a static snapshot. Literally everyone else is simply "doing their best" to work in the moment within the legacy business models Tesla scrapped 5 years ago.

2021 should be the inflection point where the marketplace(homeowners) catches up to the Tesla business model and we begin seeing efficiencies. Then we start doubling every year and........ah you people know what happens then.

Meanwhile, no one else has that ability to scale with the market.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Really trying to look at this morning's trading from the "this stock is not manipulated" viewpoint but coming up empty, lol.

It's really, really simple: (once you tear off the public-school bandaid over your eyes)

• MMs/hedgies are engaged in profitable, routine, naked shortselling (SEC-pwned)
• Wedgies won't give up their scam easily, nor their prize steer (TSLA)
• Only when wedgies are FORCED to cover does the SP go up substantially:
  • 2020Q3 share dividend created equity which could not be counterfeited
  • S&P inclusion shifted shares to direct owners (funds) not benefical owners (retail)
  • Large Funds litigate any FTDs; Retail investors don't even know what they don't have
• Simple: Tesla needs to follow up the next good Earnings Report with a share dividend.

It's as simple as that. Elon, Zach: it's time for the next stock split, gentlemen. TIA.

Cheers!

 

[larmor]

When a single company is threatening established players in Oil, Energy, and Auto simultaneously there are a lot of deep pockets to draw from.

Also uber/lyft, AI VC funded startups for self driving, and insurance, and by way of spacex heritage defense contractors that have rockets and satellite contracts.

 

[Singuy]

Looks to be high PE sticks selling off for these big techs. SHOP, AMD, and Fvrr not getting any love while I see Intel green.

 

[Dancing Lemur]

Break above that trendline and it’s up we go.

 

[aubreymcfato]

Moved my 401k to TSLA in 2016-17 after a year in the Model S (I'm slow). Bought land for the agroforestry field station with shares from work and TSLA will provide the infrastructure including 10k m^2 of solar and 1 MWh of battery making us a regional power producer as well. Coffee, cacao, citrus. Also biochar.

Could you share with us your experience with all this, maybe in a dedicated thread?

1. Agroforestry +
2. solar generation +
3. storage

is one of the best thing you can do for the environment right now. I know that many here of TMC are thinking about 2 and 3 (I do).

 

[MP3Mike]

It's as simple as that. Elon, Zach: it's time for the next stock split, gentlemen. TIA.

My guess is that there will be a proposal to increase the number of shares they are authorized to issue at this year's annual stock holder meeting. And after that passes they will do another split.

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

Break above that trendline and it’s up we go.

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You figure something has got to give in the next 30-60 mins. Hard to fathom them trying to avoid paying out the 700 Calls after such a blowout report but it sure looks like that's what they're trying for.

 

[2daMoon]

More than half the Average Daily Volume in 2 hours.

I'm thinking some folks may have taken notice of the P&D data since Friday. Soon, the laggards will get their morning cup of coffee down and their synapses will begin firing throughout the day. Ought to be fun to watch.

 

[JustMe]

You figure something has got to give in the next 30-60 mins. Hard to fathom them trying to avoid paying out the 700 Calls after such a blowout report but it sure looks like that's what they're trying for.

Yeah - the highs are getting lower and the lows are getting higher. I reckon it’s going to break one way or the other soon...

 

[UkNorthampton]

It's really, really simple: (once you tear off the public-school bandaid over your eyes)

• MMs/hedgies are engaged in profitable, routine, naked shortselling (SEC-pwned)
• Wedgies won't give up their scam easily, nor their prize steer (TSLA)
• Only when wedgies are FORCED to cover does the SP go up substantially:
  • 2020Q3 share dividend created equity which could not be counterfeited
  • S&P inclusion shifted shares to direct owners (funds) not benefical owners (retail)
  • Large Funds litigate any FTDs; Retail investors don't even know what they don't have
• Simple: Tesla needs to follow up the next good Earnings Report with a share dividend.

It's as simple as that. Elon, Zach: it's time for the next stock split, gentlemen. TIA.

Cheers!

Teslaquilla dividend. If shorts counterfeit bottle & contents, they'll be up against different kinds of lawyers & the U.S. Food and Drug Administration

If delivery of alcohol not possible, send the bottle and put credit behind the bars at Tesla/SpaceX including Berlin Rave cave.

Alternatively, a dividend of Willy Wonker factory visits/Roadster track time.

 

[Zaxxon]

Sounds like GJ's mic doesn't even believe the nonsense he is spewing:

I'm not an analyst, but it seems to me that when your opening salvo is 'the YoY growth is irrelevant,' you may be signaling that you don't have a winning thesis.

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

Yeah - the highs are getting lower and the lows are getting higher. I reckon it’s going to break one way or the other soon...

We have our answer. Nasdaq continues to power higher and still getting capped. In fact we're dropping as the Nasdaq goes higher. Wall St BS never ceases to amaze me sometimes (mostly in how blatant they are).

I have zero interest in selling my 4/9 Call's at any price under 700 so I'll just sit and wait to see what happens tomorrow and/or Wed. I may end up getting screwed if they actually manage to pin this to 700 for the entire week but oh well, this was just short term lotto money anyways.