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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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X3 is a terrible car when it comes to interior space. I had one for a week and was mind blown that I can't fit a normal person in the front seat when the back seat has a rear facing Graco 4ever car seat. I have no problem in my model 3. And this Y will have another row? As they call it in esports..gg...
Buckminster
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Can someone advise on any of these:
2 pieces of glass in roof?
How do you access third row? M3 seats aren't designed to push forward for ingress.
Do we have dimensions?
Nothing on Flexi wiring or manufacturability?
2 pieces of glass in roof?
How do you access third row? M3 seats aren't designed to push forward for ingress.
Do we have dimensions?
Nothing on Flexi wiring or manufacturability?
Regarding comparison against BMW x3, I don't see how X3 can fit in a third row. Even in X5 the third row is very tight
There are three pieces of glass. The windshield, the roof, and the hatch glass. (No support beam in the middle like the Model 3 has.)
The 2nd row seats fold individually, so they aren't Model 3 seats.
Thanks for putting this in context. >2x the storage vs Model S is insane... my S is already cavernous...
Model Y is the ideal car for me. Put in my order for AWD Model Y.
In my view there is no competition for this car on the market, today or in a few years.
On the gasoline SUV side, I use BMW X3 as an example. I selected the comparable options, then compared X3 AWD with Model Y AWD. I found the Tesla Model Y costs less, and it is a much nicer car (safety, performance, convenience, glass roof, etc.). I haven't even factored in the gasoline savings and maintenance savings. The X3 is 25 mpg, Model Y's savings on gasoline will be very significant.
On the electric SUV/CUV side, nothing can get close to the the Model Y offering. E-tron, i-Pace would have to cut price by 40-50% in order to have a chance to compete with the Model Y. If E-tron, i-Pace indeed cut price by 50%, I personally would still choose Tesla's Model Y. Not because it's a Tesla, but because the Model Y is a better deal overall (milage per charge, safety, performance, space, efficency, autopilot, supercharger network, etc.).
In my view there is no competition for this car on the market, today or in a few years.
On the gasoline SUV side, I use BMW X3 as an example. I selected the comparable options, then compared X3 AWD with Model Y AWD. I found the Tesla Model Y costs less, and it is a much nicer car (safety, performance, convenience, glass roof, etc.). I haven't even factored in the gasoline savings and maintenance savings. The X3 is 25 mpg, Model Y's savings on gasoline will be very significant.
On the electric SUV/CUV side, nothing can get close to the the Model Y offering. E-tron, i-Pace would have to cut price by 40-50% in order to have a chance to compete with the Model Y. If E-tron, i-Pace indeed cut price by 50%, I personally would still choose Tesla's Model Y. Not because it's a Tesla, but because the Model Y is a better deal overall (milage per charge, safety, performance, space, efficency, autopilot, supercharger network, etc.).
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I think we are arguing semantics, but the $2500 "order deposit" is fully refundable. So its really not different than the Model 3 reservation in spirit. Obviously we can debate a difference in opinion, but my .02
Buckminster
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In terms of looks (my preference):
- Roadster
- S in person
- S on screen
- MY on screen
- M3 in person
- M3 on screen
- MY in person (guess)
- X
- 99% of non Teslas
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
No, I think that's just a formating issue on that particular slide.
They meant the Standard Range Model Y will be available in 2021.
The 7 seat option should be available for all version at time of 1st sale.
The big difference is that you can configure now. That’s a big plus for Tesla, in that they can better plan for demand.
No, the 7-seat option is 2021 per the configurator.
In the design studio it says :"Seven Seat Interior Available in 2021"
My wife currently drives a Toyota Highlander and I was hoping the third row would be similar so I can convince her, but the third row in Model Y does not seem practical.
No, if you go through configuration, choosing 7 seats shows not being available until 2021.
Just waiting for the new articles:
“Elon forgets to paint it silver” - Dana Hull
“No Model Y SUVs were delivered to customers” - LA Times
“This car will cost money to build, Doom!” - Forbes
“What do you mean, I can’t trade in my Model3 for what I paid for it?” - Electrik
“Much smaller than a Q7, will anyone want it?” - NY Times
“F$@k what a SUV, this *sugar* is real” - Dan Neil
“Elon forgets to paint it silver” - Dana Hull
“No Model Y SUVs were delivered to customers” - LA Times
“This car will cost money to build, Doom!” - Forbes
“What do you mean, I can’t trade in my Model3 for what I paid for it?” - Electrik
“Much smaller than a Q7, will anyone want it?” - NY Times
“F$@k what a SUV, this *sugar* is real” - Dan Neil
Antares Nebula
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Yeah, I don't expect a major move in the stock one way or another. No surprises in the reveal, except a small positive one (7 seater option). Basically the Y hit all the check marks, without any hype. The substance is there: Enough cargo room (66 cf vs 15 for M3), 7 seat option, affordable starting price, sporty/fun drive, and reasonably good/okay looking. Basically will be the best ESUV on the market when released. Major advancement in autopilot by next year will make it the no-brainer choice.
Re stock, if I was being cautious, I'd say the risk remains to the downside. At any case, I don't expect my 300 or 310 calls to pay tomorrow. But my medium/long term outlook is that the stock will *slowly* move up from here, climbing a wall of worry, assuming M3 deliveries pan out and continue to improve from any potential Q1 trough. Still many products and catalysts remain this year.
Let's see what the press reviews and pundits say over the next few days.
Re stock, if I was being cautious, I'd say the risk remains to the downside. At any case, I don't expect my 300 or 310 calls to pay tomorrow. But my medium/long term outlook is that the stock will *slowly* move up from here, climbing a wall of worry, assuming M3 deliveries pan out and continue to improve from any potential Q1 trough. Still many products and catalysts remain this year.
Let's see what the press reviews and pundits say over the next few days.
To be honest, I quickly went through the order pages to see what the prices are, and didn’t notice anything about refundability. I probably am not the only one, so I guess this will prevent some people from ordering now.
Using Model 3 lights helps in the Game of Pennies.
It says Fully refundable directly beneath "Due Today" on the payment screen (scroll down on right hand pane)
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