I actually sold some covered calls (once I figured out how to do it without screwing up my holding period) but I won't sell strikes $400 or lower, or anything after February 1, for fear of getting assigned.
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I actually sold some covered calls (once I figured out how to do it without screwing up my holding period) but I won't sell strikes $400 or lower, or anything after February 1, for fear of getting assigned.
Yes, but it turns out that (unlike stocks) the market makers are willing to take unbalanced positions. In stocks, market makers try to zero out their inventory as much as possible. In options, they don't. They hedge their unbalanced options positions by buying or selling stock. So one side of the trade may be a market maker with no opinion on the stock.
That's what I call a smart question, BTW.
The good analysts at least will always update their models for the companies they cover after earnings.
They will sometimes update their models after significant news or periodically through the quarter. The bigger the company, the more likely this is. So for Tesla, it looks like most have given an update at least since December.
Here's the breakdown:
Last updated this month: BofAML, Deutsche, Elazar, JMP, JPMorgan, Macquarie, Needham, RBC, and 3 of the "Undisclosed"
Last updated in December: Goldman Sachs, Wedbush, Wolfe Research
Last updated in November: Roth, UBS
Last updated in October (i.e. the lazy analysts): Canaccord, Evercore, Oppenheimer, Piper, and the last "Undisclosed"
Obviously the estimates made in October I would give less importance to, especially with a company like Tesla where there is usually some kind significant news every month.
How? At least one strike out of money and with expiration at least 30days in future at time of selling?
EVNow
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That's very interesting. So, only those who updated this month have actually taken the published P&D numbers - others have assumed some numbers. BTW, Oppenheimer who has't updated since October, comes closest to the EPS estimated by @luvb2b .
Ofcourse since its only the 10th, may be some others will update in the next 2 weeks.
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Buddyroe
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It would be MUCH easier to just say you were wrong on this one. Here's the words you used in your post:
"but he didn't say anything about a reveal date. Certainly not 2019."
But, he did say something about a reveal date - and he certainly DID say 2019 (next year when it is 2018).
Granted, your point is correct (and I think everyone agrees on that), but you can't say that he has never mentioned a reveal date for the truck, then turn around and say, "well, he did mention it, but he said maybe." Buckminister was only pointing out that while you are right that Bloomberg will call it another missed commitment, Musk DID indeed mention the reveal date.
That’s correct! I would assume all of the updated this month were to rework their models to account for the actual production models.
I have a Chinese friend who has Japanese friends. Usually once a year they (him and his parents) go back to visit friends and family both in Hong Kong and mainland China, and they usually swing by Japan as well for tourism and to visit friends there. We might just barely be considered "millennials" depending on who you ask but his parents are definitely from an older generation. IIRC they got here from HK via Guam then Canada, naturalized in Canada, then moved to the US and naturalized here. I have no doubt there's plenty of racism to go around in general, but not all Chinese hate all Japanese and vice-versa. If it were only himself that displayed no racism towards Japan then you might argue it was a shared love of car culture that bridged the international gap, but his parents aren't racists either.
I wouldn't rule out a Roadster "one more thing" style reveal of the Pickup. I don't expect a full reveal in the same way we expect a Y reveal or we had one for the 3 in 2016.
It is a nice improvement from the media that they are now introducing new EVs with the title "EV in fight against Tesla", versus the earlier standard of every new EV being called a "Tesla killer".
Maybe they finally realized Tesla isn't getting killed anytime soon by the legacy automakers ?
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dc_h
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Odd, the render got uploaded. I updated with the real picture.
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I think the one more thing will be redesigned S&X
dc_h
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Wrong. Follow the tweet, that’s the real thing. Get close up on the engine area and it’s less polished.
But maybe you know better than Elon Musk. You, probably you know better, definitely for sure.
Elon Musk on Twitter
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Great info! Do you have the old estimates for Q3, by any chance? Would be interested to know how it compares to Factset, plus we might be able to figure out which analysts Factset uses with a little math.
Carl Raymond
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Better put your glasses back on. That’s a different pic.
dc_h
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Yeah, somehow I uploaded the render version. The real thing looks about as good as the render. Hope to be back in Texas late February and make the trip down to see it.
anthonyj
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Maybe Elon is in Europe with MacKenzie. Funding secured for Daimler-Benz acquisition?
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