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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Have you tried that before? I did. Easier without a family. I'll just try to make whatever impact I can locally instead.
On the other hand, that razor cuts both ways: she could have dismissed the contempt charge entirely, correct?
Krugerrand
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I believe under most scenarios where she'd dismiss the contempt charge she'd have to clarify, i.e. modify the settlement.
That is best done with both parties present, to inquire whether they accept/understand that.
I.e. the only outcome that would be plausible without a hearing is to rule immediately against Elon on grounds of a clear violation of the settlement.
That didn't happen - which IMHO suggests that she probably found the arguments of Elon's team persuasive.
The SEC can still convince her during the oral arguments, so nothing is set into stone yet.
But my guess: the SEC will probably lose the case.
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Usually open. The press doesn't get special access AFAIK, so any TMC member in NYC could participate and make notes on the 4th of April, 2pm, ~2 blocks from Brooklyn Bridge.
Thumper
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Even smart folks get hung up on a technology that becomes an ideology, and find it hard to let go. I know it is a shocker.
I think his hang up is that he thinks fuel cells are so great because: you can still “fuel” the car (ugh!), and that means a smaller battery for the given range, and less battery recycling, hence better for the environment. I don’t think he has paid attention to the massive improvement in battery technology compared to the minimum or zero progress with hydrogen fuel cells; or the huge advantage to electric fueling stations vs gas or hydrogen (all the infrastructure to install electric charging stations exists now, minimal costs to transport it electricity to the stationsk, etc).
My point is that this is part of the German resistance to BEVs: the insistence of many that fuel cells stay in the subsidized research mix. Many still consider BEVs some kind of curious and cute toys for the rich, but not practical for real people and not really good for the environment, because gosh all those dead batteries in the landfills. I expect that if we really see huge Tesla M3 sales in Germany, that many like my friend may re-consider. My friend is not anti-BEV, or even anti-Tesla, just pro-hydrogen and pro-German manufacturing. And he doesn’t like touchscreens.
Wait, you didn't say "not an advice"....Usually open. The press doesn't get special access AFAIK, so any TMC member in NYC could participate and make notes on the 4th of April, 2pm, ~2 blocks from Brooklyn Bridge.
I won't worry too much about it. Chinese cities are tightening emissions standard, and the government often issues restrictions on ICE cars on the road if the air quality is bad. Say if you plan to go somewhere on next Wednesday, you can't reply on your car cause if the the air quality would be bad that day, the government can prevent more than half of the cars from getting on the road.
How useful is your car I'd you can't use it half of the time?
EVs are not understand this restrictions.
Also, Tesla is very far from tapping into the energy storage market...
Tesla has sold 573 cars in Norway today. In context Norway total car sales were 148k in 2018. So today Tesla sold 141% of average daily Norway car sales & may have accounted for 50-70% of all cars sold in the country. Obviously driven by quarter end delivery rush, but still very impressive!
You're reading way too much into a very standard procedural Order.
Pras
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Wouldn’t mind going there. Mark Spiegel may be camping there as well. Good time to meet enemy number 1.Usually open. The press doesn't get special access AFAIK, so any TMC member in NYC could participate and make notes on the 4th of April, 2pm, ~2 blocks from Brooklyn Bridge.
Another way to look at it--this quarter is now 49% above the prior-best Tesla quarter in Norway. We've got 4 more delivery days left.
Do you guys figure there will be a ruling on April 4th? I'll have some funds to buy more shares on the 2nd or 3rd. Thought I was going to miss out on a possible rise in share price from the delivery numbers but a ruling on the SEC case could case a much bigger rise.
Ugh, I hate that whole landfill argument. Here's some math done (and spelled out) a long time ago pointing out how much cubic meters of material needs to be extracted/refined/consumed to drive with gasoline: ... How Much Was Consumed? - fan of the underdog | Seeking Alpha
It's even more apropos now with the model 3 and its smaller battery pack that goes further with a smaller pack than an S85.
Think his mommy would let him out of the bathroom for that long?
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