bsilva
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FWIW, Washington state has the highest per capita ownership of Teslas of any state. And I understand Seattle is the highest per capita city.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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jhm
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While we're in the mood to share family stories, my mom told me the other day that she 'heard on the news' that someone got locked in their Tesla and died.
The point is not my mom's herculean levels of gullibility, but this FUD goes a bit further than just cnbc and seeking alpha articles.
The point is not my mom's herculean levels of gullibility, but this FUD goes a bit further than just cnbc and seeking alpha articles.
Can you do the above graph in gigawatt hours please, or perhaps w/o PHEVS
Many thanks
Mars ☰mperor
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The FUD in China is strong:
Model S fire.
Model 3 build quality, blah blah blah
Autopilot safety concern, blah blah blah
Range Anxiety (people are so misinformed)
Plus, paid negative online comments have a long history in China. Sigh.
Carl Raymond
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Astonishing 'like' ratio on these two tweets.
I mean, really, there's little difference between having a private jet and having a private jet with a salary. Compared to the importance of the FUD war, it's practically irrelevant.
I would assume that anybody aware of the FUD campaign would summon the energy to click the heart on the upper tweet, yet it draws about one seventh the 'likes'.
This is telling us that even among Musk's followers, the majority don't have a clue what's going on.
I think the most important takeaways are:
1. Don’t own TSLA on margin
2. Don’t invest money needed in the short term in TSLA
ZachF
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Remember, people said the same thing about the iPhone when it first came out... "People want BUTTONS, where are the BUTTONS!"
It is unbelievable at this stage tesla still does not consider charge higher delivery fees for the remote markets. Customers understand the extra fees due to higher delivery cost.
I have to say somebody with better financial/accounting background in tesla should stand up to Elon. Please give up the stupid ideas of uniform pricing(except for tax reasons) across all markets. It is really for the sake of the mission.
Cost cutting is nice but be realistic how much cost you can cut if you are limited by production capacity in 1 year?
I have to say somebody with better financial/accounting background in tesla should stand up to Elon. Please give up the stupid ideas of uniform pricing(except for tax reasons) across all markets. It is really for the sake of the mission.
Cost cutting is nice but be realistic how much cost you can cut if you are limited by production capacity in 1 year?
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ZachF
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Don't forget about his doozy about Tesla self-driving hardware going Skynet on us during a CC.
ZachF
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Frustrated with the nonsense that Adam Jonas calls analysis and then shares with investors as he trashes Tesla? Me too. Here's my take on CleanTechnica.
My thanks to Zach for quickly and bravely getting this article published.
My thanks to Zach for quickly and bravely getting this article published.
On Musk's $2.3B 2018 salary hit piece:
What is so blatant about this particular FUD is, these guys are not even broaching on a subject of a matter of opinion.
For example, if you write a hit piece that company is going bankrupt, on an highly skewed analysis based on some imagined -ve future conditions. That is a matter of opinion. You can let it go. But how can you write utter rubbish on a black and white fact? Musk's contract is public information and it clearly says he will not get a dime unless the stock triples.
Once Charlie Grant from WSJ wrote that lie, every other outfit picked it up and amplified it with their own embellishments. None of them have retracted their story so far.
Outright lying is fair game for MSM.
If they can lie and get away from such a plain simple fact that is easily verified by anyone, just imagine the dishonesty these guys would exhibit on issues that have shades of grey.
What is so blatant about this particular FUD is, these guys are not even broaching on a subject of a matter of opinion.
For example, if you write a hit piece that company is going bankrupt, on an highly skewed analysis based on some imagined -ve future conditions. That is a matter of opinion. You can let it go. But how can you write utter rubbish on a black and white fact? Musk's contract is public information and it clearly says he will not get a dime unless the stock triples.
Once Charlie Grant from WSJ wrote that lie, every other outfit picked it up and amplified it with their own embellishments. None of them have retracted their story so far.
Outright lying is fair game for MSM.
If they can lie and get away from such a plain simple fact that is easily verified by anyone, just imagine the dishonesty these guys would exhibit on issues that have shades of grey.
Mars ☰mperor
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Not sure how China's economy really is, the communist party is good at hiding things and possibly cooking up stuff.
But one thing I'm pretty sure is that they don't want to lose face and they want to show their strength to the Chinese people (it's so sad that many have been successfully brainwashed).
So I think it's going to take quite some time, especially when the counterpart is an idiotic US president.
At least here in the USA it is illegal to do that. Everyone has to pay exactly the same destination charge. For other markets they do charge more.
EVNow
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But now that they have apparently decided they will build Model Y in Fremont, is it really possible to expedite the production and start making sample cars in 2019 itself ? I know many had hoped that they would make Y in 2019 and were disappointed when Tesla announced 2020 date. But 2019 feasible - even for Tesla ?
I am not fine with this approach as the pee will spray back all over his pants and the floor. Relax Elon
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