Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Artful Dodger]

After-action Report: Wed, Apr 15, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

VWAP: $733.64
Volume: 23,601,676
Traded: $17,315,018,421.21 ($17.32 B)

Closing SP / VWAP: 99.52%
(TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP)​

FINRA Short/Total Volume = 62.8% (54th Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 48.4% (52nd Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)

Comment: "TSLA hangs on to overnight gains"

 

[Curt Renz]

Weird, seems like the Webcast is later than usual. BAD NEWS

It will be at the same time of day as the last three earnings report conference calls.

Events & Presentations | Tesla, Inc.

 

[Krugerrand]

After-action Report: Wed, Apr 15, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

VWAP: $733.64
Volume: 23,601,676
Traded: $17,315,018,421.21 ($17.32 B)

Closing SP / VWAP: 99.52%
(TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP)​

FINRA Short/Total Volume = 62.8% (54th Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 48.4% (52nd Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)

Comment: "TSLA hangs on to overnight gains"

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Quick question. You may have answered it in the past, so profuse forgiveness.

I only want to know if it’s ‘bad’ if close is below avg SP for the day or if it ‘bodes well’ if close is above avg SP or if it just doesn’t matter one way or another and we’re screwed either way and at the mercy of the money men?

 

[Green Pete]

Weird, seems like the Webcast is later than usual. BAD NEWS

It's on a Wednesday. GOOD NEWS!

 

[Krugerrand]

It will be at the same time of day as the last three earnings report conference calls.

Events & Presentations | Tesla, Inc.

Which is bad, right? Or are we thinking it’s good? Or it just doesn’t matter one way or another and we’re at the mercy of the beautiful people?

 

[gerebgraus]

Had the same thought. But the land next to phase 2 seems to be some kind of greenhouses or something. No expensive buildings to tear down if more room is needed. Pretty sure Tesla could buy that land if they need it. Although it might be a better idea to open a second factory in some other part of China to spread the geographical risk.

Tesla cannot buy the land next door. All land in China is owned by the government. Unlike Tesla whoever has the land next door has no 99 years lease. If the government wants to lease that land to Tesla, the guys next door are out soon. Welcome to PRC. No expensive buildings there because the guys count already on being kicked out from there.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Weird, seems like the Webcast is later than usual. BAD NEWS

Wrong. Conference Call at the same time as 2019 Q4 (GOOD NEWS)

Tesla Announces Date for Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2019 Financial Results and Webcast | Tesla, Inc.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Quick question. You may have answered it in the past, so profuse forgiveness.

I only want to know if it’s ‘bad’ if close is below avg SP for the day or if it ‘bodes well’ if close is above avg SP or if it just doesn’t matter one way or another and we’re screwed either way and at the mercy of the money men?

Thanks, this has NOT been answered before. Like every Stat, it's open to interpretation. The way I use it to to try to gauge sentiment, or manipulation. Are those two statistically correlated? That's the 'Art'.

For me, when I see a big drop at the end of the day, but the VWAP is much higher than the Closing SP, it usually means 'Shortzes' have been playing their games. Combine it with other data points to build a larger picture. I think of it as 'virtual situational awareness'.

Cheers!

 

[MP3Mike]

Wrong. Conference Call at the same time as 2019 Q4 (GOOD NEWS)

Tesla Announces Date for Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2019 Financial Results and Webcast | Tesla, Inc.

He was trying to make the point that it is a week later in the month than people predicted.

 

[EV forever]

What is the Max Pain number for options expiring this Friday? It is monthly options expiration date, correct?

 

[MC3OZ]

He was trying to make the point that it is a week later in the month than people predicted.

Is it really that surprising, all things considered?

A later date probably means significantly more accurate information... especially on any future guidance they may share.

 

[dl003]

It's on a Wednesday. GOOD NEWS!

2 days of short burn secured

 

[FrankSG]

Tim Seymour finally covered his TSLA short, as he states that he currently has no position in TSLA (Timestamp - 0:38)

I didn't think I'd live to see this day

 

[Krugerrand]

Thanks, this has NOT been answered before. Like every Stat, it's open to interpretation. The way I use it to to try to gauge sentiment, or manipulation. Are those two statistically correlated? That's the 'Art'.

For me, when I see a big drop at the end of the day, but the VWAP is much higher than the Closing SP, it usually means 'Shortzes' have been playing their games. Combine it with other data points to build a larger picture. I think of it as 'virtual situational awareness'.

Cheers!

Ok, that’s interesting. Would you consider doing a top ten? chart of those ‘artful situational interpretations’? If this and that then this type of deal? Then we could grade you and decide if you’re a prophet or full of pooh. No, I wouldn’t really do that because I like you but there’s no accounting for what @Unpilot would do. I’m happy to keep him in line for you, for free even.

Seriously, I’d be interested in your observations at least as a matter of intrigue.

 

[pz1975]

Tim Seymour finally covered his TSLA short, as he states that he currently has no position in TSLA (Timestamp - 0:38)

I didn't think I'd live to see this day

If asked, he will of course claim that he covered around $350 to try and look smart to his viewers.

 

[Artful Dodger]

Ok, that’s interesting. Would you consider doing a top ten? chart of those ‘artful situational interpretations’? If this and that then this type of deal? Then we could grade you and decide if you’re a prophet or full of pooh. No, I wouldn’t really do that because I like you but there’s no accounting for what @Unpilot would do. I’m happy to keep him in line for you, for free even.

Seriously, I’d be interested in your observations at least as a matter of intrigue.

Indeed, I'm making a list. I picked the toughest nut to crack in the history of Wall St. (#NEVERSCARED). This is also why I allocated 10 years for my investment horizon, so I don't stress out over ups and downs, even though I follow them.

Of course, this purported list of investing canon will be kept secret between you and I, while alternately lobbing toxoplasmosis at passing dips and resisting the ephemeral highs.

Cheers!

EDIT: (the non-secret part)

"Lodger's Ten Rules for Investment Success": (c) 2020 - Draft Edition

1. Buy Half and Sell Half; there'll be more Chances
2. Stocks cycle through their Trading Channel in 4-6 wks
3. Volatility is not Risk; a Stallion that doesn't buck is called a Gelding
4. Time Is your Friend, Emotion Is your Enemy
5. Often the Best Action is to Do Nothing
6. Forget the News, They're Paid to Lie (unless you Catch the Lie)
7. Market Makers are NOT your Friend, its their Game to Rig
8. Don't Overtrade, especially Options
9. Minimize the Croupier's Take, Don't use Margin
10. Have Realistic Expectations, Be Honest with Yourself

 

[Singuy]

If asked, he will of course claim that he covered around $350 to try and look smart to his viewers.

I feel like every fund manager knew about GS' upgrade and bailed before announcement.

 

[ggr]

Weird, seems like the Webcast is later than usual. BAD NEWS

In the past it has been delayed occasionally because Ford choose the same time. Indeed, that is the case this time too. Many of the same analysts cover both.
Ford Motor Company Common Stock (F) Earnings Report Date

 

[printf42]

In the past it has been delayed occasionally because Ford choose the same time. Indeed, that is the case this time too. Many of the same analysts cover both.
Ford Motor Company Common Stock (F) Earnings Report Date

Tesla should chose the exact same time, good way to make sure those “auto analysts” won’t show up in the call to waste everyone’s time.
/s

 

[woodisgood]

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