I would argue that buying leaps is being an "options investor" instead of an "options trader." I also bought leaps, and dont consider myself an options trader.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Any thoughts that some news is pending?
I’ve been watching this stock daily for a very very very long time and today seems exceptionally bullish.
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volume is low enough that it’s a move-able SP, but seems no sellers
I’ve been watching this stock daily for a very very very long time and today seems exceptionally bullish.
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volume is low enough that it’s a move-able SP, but seems no sellers
I don't think it's an issue at all. Just speculating on partnerships and whatnot.
SPoon.......j/k.....people finally realizing that its oversold and under valued....and its $TSLA
Mo City
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I think for the sake of his own credibility (and that of Redwood Materials), JB has to establish himself as completely separate and distinct from Tesla and Elon.
This is a very good thing for the movement going forward.
I would argue that buying leaps is being an "options investor" instead of an "options trader." I also bought leaps, and dont consider myself an options trader.
OK, but after my initial big LEAP win I started selling calls and puts, buying more LEAPs, rolling LEAPS, more short term calls, weeklies, etc.
Yes you can get burned, and I have, but with a few basic rules you can do just fine:
- don't bet the farm
- when the stock is low, buy LEAPS
- when the stock is trading in a range, sell puts/calls, but be aware that it will breakout up or down at any moment, so limit your risk
With $200k capital you can generate $10k a week selling weeklies when the stock is going nowhere.
Edit: looks like we were being capped, but we just broke out of it... $420 for the win?
I’d like to throw in another point of view on this S&P inclusion stuff.
With $TSLA not in the index, it was/is easier for non-index funds to beat that index. Certainly some -or even most- fund managers have performance based contracts. Whether or not they outperform S&P becomes a very important metric in their personal wealth plan, this way.
So there’s a large, expected to be influential group of fund managers that has to find other ways to beat S&P than just track that index for 90% and allocate 10% to $TSLA.
Cheers to you, Dave, anyway.
Possibly! but to me it looks like large batches of shares being bid up because there aren’t enough available, and the buyers don’t care they’re adding multiple %s during big buys.
idk I’m not a big boy I swing 200k-1mil. But when I do swing it I’m not giving away 1-2% during my buy order.
Something’s brewing
Last week we got punished hard as gamblers bailed in droves. In doing so, they left behind a big hole, unjustified by the market correction. Now that the market is recovering a bit, buyers are quickly filling it.
No they are not: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1305570412349321216
Edit: I'm happy Elon said something. That rumor seemed very out of left field and didn't make any sense to me.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Sometimes those strong moves up are indicative of delta hedging by MMs. I think someone upthread mentioned a strong flow for 9/18 420c but I haven’t looked to see how big.
That being said, large buyers most certainly want to get in ahead of Battery Day. It will definitely be a buy the rumor event. The question is whether it will be a sell the news event.
Mo City
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It's hard to believe than my IRA can swing $200K either way in a single day and it doesn't phase me one bit. Unreal.
LOL, this calmness cannot be normal.
Hats off to those here owning a lot more shares than I.
LOL, this calmness cannot be normal.
Hats off to those here owning a lot more shares than I.
They added this to the CleanTechnica story:
"Update: Tesla CEO Elon Musk says these reports are not true.
Definitely not. Smartwatches & phones are yesterday’s technology, Neuralinks are the future.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 14, 2020"
My guess is they will want someone in energy soon then. Most of the largest revenue companies in the world are energy companies. And energy is a sector that Tesla is definitely attempting to disrupt. Isn't Tesla's mission statement something like, "Accelerating the advent of sustainable energy." I get Ark has limited resources, but this is one of the biggest sectors being disrupted and TSLA is one of their biggest holdings. Ark prides itself on non silod approach to analysis. To silo off energy even with limited human resources still seems a mistake to me. But I am not invested in Ark mostly because I do not agree with their 10% rule around portfolio management. And I do think they are some the smartest people around which is why I bet that soon after battery day they will start looking for someone in energy. To truly be able to understand TSLA you need expertise in auto, tech, and energy. There is no way around that.
It's hard to imagine going back to owning index funds, isn't it?
@DaveT discusses JB in one of his recent videos on YouTube:
My two cents: JB seems like a decent man and it seems implausible that he would be so greedy to just be on the board to get a stake in the company. But who knows?
Artful Dodger
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410, I hear ya' knockin'...
Cheers!
Cheers!
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