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I am shocked that I am posting a Gary Black tweet but this one delivers entertainment value.


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Six months ago, I was an EV skeptic who thought Teslas were city-bound toys for wealthy coastal liberals.

Four months ago, I found out my 2022 Honda Civic was worth more than I paid for it new, so I started thinking about riding the wave and getting a new car for essentially free.
Noticing how many Teslas I was starting to see in my area, I decided to visit the Tesla website. $7500 tax credit? $42k? Hmm, you have my attention!

Three months ago, I take delivery of my 2023 Model 3 RWD. Mind blown. Start going down the Tesla rabbit hole. TMC, Sandy Munro, FSD, the whole thing.

One month ago, put all of my savings into TSLA.

Today, my portfolio is up 35%. Wow. Change happens slowly and then all at once!!
this has been happening for years for those who buy a Tesla and realize the profundity of the EV revolution
 
I hope you guys are dusting off those Sparta memes. We may need them soon.
Six months ago, I was an EV skeptic who thought Teslas were city-bound toys for wealthy coastal liberals.

Four months ago, I found out my 2022 Honda Civic was worth more than I paid for it new, so I started thinking about riding the wave and getting a new car for essentially free.
Noticing how many Teslas I was starting to see in my area, I decided to visit the Tesla website. $7500 tax credit? $42k? Hmm, you have my attention!

Three months ago, I take delivery of my 2023 Model 3 RWD. Mind blown. Start going down the Tesla rabbit hole. TMC, Sandy Munro, FSD, the whole thing.

One month ago, put all of my savings into TSLA.

Today, my portfolio is up 35%. Wow. Change happens slowly and then all at once!!
Welcome to the winning team!
 
Tesla committed to ~3,500 MagicDock installs by the end of 2024. And from what I have seen the US Government is paying for the retrofits, so why would they stop?

The main point of MagicDock is to increase usage at low utilization sites to help recover the costs at those sites. (Demand charges are a real problem at low utilization sites.) They are also a good marketing effort to introduce non-Tesla owners to the Tesla ecosystem.

tl;dr: I fully expect Tesla to continue the MagicDock rollout to meet their obligation. (They might be taking a pause while they consider how to handle cables not reaching some vehicles, can they easily support a longer cable? Do they need to wait for V4 posts?)
We just stopped at the Superchargers with Magic Dock in Verona NY. There are 12 Superchargers. There was one other Tesla there and no other cars. There is definitely plenty of room for more utilization in Upstate NY.

(This is the site where the Tesla sales center will be opening at Turning Stone Casino).

Edit: Same in Parish NY... 8 superchargers and we're the only car here. First time traveling with bikes on the Y. Big hit to range, so we made an extra stop.

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Yes, my dad introduced me to Tesla in 2015 (I was 12 years old) and he ordered a Model X. I was always a car enthusiast but from the day we test drove the Model X I knew, this is the future.

So once I was a bit older I started investing my savings and christmas money into Tesla Stocks. Even though I lost some during COVID, I am stll on a very, very green path. It is my safety fund for the future and every day I spend my time reading through this thread, news articles and twitter, informing myself about the latest updates in the Tesla Space.

It's been an incredible ride already. I remember when we got our Model X as one of the first here in Germany, you saw one Tesla every 1.5-2 months.

Thinking about how far they have already come in such a short period is mindblowing.

I am inspired to look forward to the future everyday, as this is just the beginning.
I am deeply concerned that I may be shaping young minds.
 
I try to like Gary Black because he's usually supportive of Tesla, but I find every time that he just becomes another Wall St talking head who speaks as if he knows the cause for every rise and fall in the stock, but really doesn't. Easy when there's no way to prove anything one way or another.

He's too wishy-washy for me. I like my bulls strong, with steel balls, who flinch at nothing.
 
Unconvinced of the investment merits!? That doesn’t make sense if he was supportive of the mission. The mission IS the investable merit; it’s an investment in the future of mankind or we cease to exist.

Where was the disconnect?
The disconnect back then was that he had a significant number of highly lucrative investments, including several in closely related fields. While applauding the efforts back then he wasn't convinced TSLA was the best way for him to go. Given his record I would not argue.
Now the situation is very different, not least because his view of current events is that TSLA is rapidly becoming a global standard of excellence.

For most of us who were in in 2011-2015, TSLA has been far more a choice of conviction than it was a rational choice of risk and reward. For me at the time, bluntly, I removed money I'd put in Kiva loans and put it in TSLA. That is, I was prepared to lose it all. My friend shared empathy for that choice was was not prepared to make a similar choice.

Now, however, all the early logic still applies but now a hard-headed rational money management perspective sees a company that is more profitable than any peer, growing quickly, but now successfully becoming a utility-like franchise, but with massive upside.

Bluntly, When Ford and GM capitulate everyone, not just EV fans, sees huge upside. When the same people see that Tesla is now a public utility participant, in the unregulated sphere...they suddenly realize they've a huge growth opportunity that has been ignored by nearly everyone.

So that has been the impetus for the change my friend's thinking, as I understand it.

Just in case not everyone understands, a change in BlackRock perspective is more influential than perhaps any other single investor. In honesty I must admit I have some historical bias that influenced this post.
 
We just stopped at the Superchargers with Magic Dock in Verona NY. There are 12 Superchargers. There was one other Tesla there and no other cars. There is definitely plenty of room for more utilization in Upstate NY.

(This is the site where the Tesla sales center will be opening at Turning Stone Casino).
I am starting to see more teslas around here lately, but I fully expect sales to pick up now that there is a Delivery Location that isn't 4+hours away. Plus, there is supposedly a Service center opening up here in Syracuse soon which will help with sales as well. I have talked to a lot of people over the years that have been hesitant to buy a Tesla due to having no service centers nearby.
 
Six months ago, I was an EV skeptic who thought Teslas were city-bound toys for wealthy coastal liberals.

Four months ago, I found out my 2022 Honda Civic was worth more than I paid for it new, so I started thinking about riding the wave and getting a new car for essentially free.
Noticing how many Teslas I was starting to see in my area, I decided to visit the Tesla website. $7500 tax credit? $42k? Hmm, you have my attention!

Three months ago, I take delivery of my 2023 Model 3 RWD. Mind blown. Start going down the Tesla rabbit hole. TMC, Sandy Munro, FSD, the whole thing.

One month ago, put all of my savings into TSLA.

Today, my portfolio is up 35%. Wow. Change happens slowly and then all at once!!
Lucky timing.
My portfolio is still down about $3million compared to January of 2022. (and that is pretty much all attributed to TSLA, stock + options)
 
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Yes, but isn’t that how lots of industries work? The major OEMs sell their vehicles for little profit, but make it up over the life of the vehicle selling parts and service. I’ve heard here on this forum that many tech companies (like Apple and Google) essentially give their hardware away at zero or little profit in exchange for recurring revenue over the lifetime of the product in software sales, data harvesting, and for other strategic and financial goals.
There is a large dose of rumor is such conclusions. Apple makes hefty profit on new product sales. They do not subsidize anything. The major OEM's make money selling vehicles, although they lose money one some of them. The notion that parts and service pay for the product is false. Parts and service add to the profitability, and to tend to be more stale than are new vehicle sales.

The only categories in which products are intentionally sold at a loss to generate long term profits are those which have ver expensive closed system support. Typical honest example as printers, access devices (e.g. cable boxes, decoders, military equipment in some categories when sold with long term support contracts.)

We should realize that 'loss leaders' exist only when the outcome has net-certain follow-on benefit and when the seller is desperate.
 
Six months ago, I was an EV skeptic [...]

Three months ago, I take delivery of my 2023 Model 3 RWD. Mind blown. [...]
Welcome to the future - now go get those referral rewards :)

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Every drive will remind you of how unbelievable it is that so many people don't know how this feels yet.