That's a HUGE investment for a trailer that may be used very intermittently. I also don't know that the frame of existing trailers will handle the weight of a large EV pack, even if consumers would be willing to pay the price.
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Imagine how some Tesla marketing could improve upon the old Saturn Ion / Dent Resistant Side Panels commercials...
FWIW. I knew they were delaying it, but don't necessarily buy "for lack of demand". Ominous if true.
I vote Tesla shifts all business to building a tent, frankenstein a gen3, wrap it as a cybertruck, then blast it with the thompson , then drive it off a cliff and see if we can fool Dan O’chowd
Probably more appropriate for the expensive "camping" trailers...even a small one of those costs like $25K...all the way up to big ones that cost well over $100k. Airstream prices are serious!
Also, probably doesn't need a big battery pack or powerful motors. You're right that a big battery for range would be a waste in most rarely-used trailers. But, with a small battery more like a hybrid car setup, the trailer could provide some boost for accelerating, support on hill climbs, and some regen braking. A Chevy Volt type battery pack was only like 15 kWh, but that chemistry could charge and regen at high power.
Add some solar on the trailer roof, and you could use the battery like a Powerwall and get rid of the gas generator while parked/camping too.
Retrofits might be too diverse a market...but with Tesla's press images showing that custom cyber-trailer, I hope they're thinking about something like this for new trailers and perhaps considering partnering with a trailer manufacturer.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
I wouldn't expect them to sell a lot of them. But, it is a greater than zero chance that some trailer owners would be willing to make that part of their move to an EV.
This could be a deciding factor between making an EV purchase and upgrading their favorite work, boat, or RV trailer, or settling for another ICE tow vehicle.
As for the weight, that would be designed into the powered package that includes springs, axle, and wheels made to provide support for a specific weight range. This was indicated as "appropriately sized" in the original post. The trailer would attach to it as it did to the previous springs. Unlikely to add stress on the frame as a slide-in self-contained package.
Another advantage for this rig would be the regenerative braking aspect's dual role of recharging and conserving brake components.
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Drumheller
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Sir, please, this is an all-ages forum!Imagine a Roaster with a 800v 200KWh structural pack that weighs the same as a Model S Plaid, lays down 1.21MW of power, recharges in 15 min at a MegaCharger, and the bty lasts 10,000 cycles. Yeah, let's go there! Let's do that!
Cheers!
The idea is drool-worthy. Very much hope the stock is in a better place so I can trade some for that beast.
I TOLD you all that’s my CT! It’s even got my name written on it, in Martian.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Already exists. For sale since Spring 2023:
The Future of RV camping? Lightship all-electric trailer | Munro Live (May 22, 2023)
Bet TSLA
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Nice post, but this statement simply isn't true. I think you got confused by TTM delivery numbers.
Deliveries this year have so far been 1,324,074. So to get to the 50% CAGR number of 1,686,309, Tesla has to deliver 362,235 vehicles in Q4. That should be easy, all things considered. They've delivered more than that in each of the last four quarters.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
better(AR) look at the ballistics tested cybertruck
FTFY.
Cheers to the OG CyberSquad!
Drumheller
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A follow up to my earlier post about car dealerships:
Link to the new thread:
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looks like my bingo card from the earnings call.
cliff harris
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I dont think yoiu have to be a macroeconomics nerd to get the impression that interest rates are high, and will not stay high forever. If I had to finance a new car, and it was not SUPER urgent, I would definitely hold off on buying one for as long as I could.
Same with houses. I know 4 people trying to sell houses in our village (a record!) and none are moving. There is zero interest. People are not nuts, they can do basic math, or they know someone who can. Cars and Houses are the two biggest purchases for most people. The decisions they make on those purchases define their medium term standard of living.
I don't think its at all surprising that new car sales are struggling in this environment.
I also think this screws over ICE makers EVEN MORE! If you are *not sure* about taking the plunge for an EV, but tempted to delay your purchase by 6 months anyway due to interest rates and an uncertain economy, then you may also think that by then you might be in a position to get an EV instead of another ICE car. The tech will be better, and cheaper, and you might have saved some cash while you wait.
I'm very much looking forward to Q3 and Q4 reports from the legacy car companies. Some interesting comparisons with Tesla's finances are only days or weeks away. Then cybertruck!
Same with houses. I know 4 people trying to sell houses in our village (a record!) and none are moving. There is zero interest. People are not nuts, they can do basic math, or they know someone who can. Cars and Houses are the two biggest purchases for most people. The decisions they make on those purchases define their medium term standard of living.
I don't think its at all surprising that new car sales are struggling in this environment.
I also think this screws over ICE makers EVEN MORE! If you are *not sure* about taking the plunge for an EV, but tempted to delay your purchase by 6 months anyway due to interest rates and an uncertain economy, then you may also think that by then you might be in a position to get an EV instead of another ICE car. The tech will be better, and cheaper, and you might have saved some cash while you wait.
I'm very much looking forward to Q3 and Q4 reports from the legacy car companies. Some interesting comparisons with Tesla's finances are only days or weeks away. Then cybertruck!
Not enough credit is given to #Tesla ATM. They’re hitting some seriously epic milestones:
- Best selling car worldwide
- 5 million sales total, 1 million in Europe, - 4680 production milestones with new cell
- Doubling of AI supercomputing in a single quarter
- FSD 12 being full neural network
-Energy margins being way above expectations, 90% energy growth YoY.
- Supercharger becoming the de facto standard in America.
- Best priced EVs for quality and features.
- Optimus seeing way better than expected
WS can complaint all they want, they simply lack the understanding.
I hope they just sell, they can FOMO in later, we know how this tune goes.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
If we're making credibility wish lists, FSD>L2 should be at the top as it's been a promise unfulfilled far longer than anything else on there
Just got a notification, Software update 2023.27.7/FSD Beta v11.4.7.3 now available. So I pushed the button.
Car is at home in Seattle.
I'm in Italy.
You just gotta think there's something special about this company, don't you?
Car is at home in Seattle.
I'm in Italy.
You just gotta think there's something special about this company, don't you?
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