yes, BMW has been doing this for years
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Did they cut themselves by combining all models into one group to qualify for the materials requirements this year, and now all are falling out of the credits although the LR alone would qualify?
Although, this is Model 3 only, maybe they're using external 2170s (LG?) as well?
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I honestly believe Optimus will contribute substantially to revenues before FSD does!
I belive the M3P still qualifies as it uses more performance oriented batteries from Nevada. The other two use imported battery packs.
I agree that time will tell. Nobody knows for sure. But Tesla knows better than anyone.
I think that some time in 2024 you will be asked if you want to take delivery. I also think that Tesla will hold your place in line if you want the 2WD in 2025.
Per the wording of the IRA legislation, vehicles with batteries containing any components from China / North Korea / Russia / Iran FEOCs should no longer be defined as "new clean vehicles" and thus disqualified entirely from the credit, not one half, though I haven't kept up with models being combined and all that.
Todd Burch
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Crap News Network running a sensational headline on their webpage about the recall with the text “after 1000 crashes” as if Tesla needs 2M cars to come to the service center for a fix to stop the cars from crashing. “Breaking News” in the corner to draw more eyes.
Not gonna link it. CNN, GFY. Can’t even stomach the drivel of any of the news networks anymore.
Not gonna link it. CNN, GFY. Can’t even stomach the drivel of any of the news networks anymore.
With the exacting consistency of Tesla auto-wipers.....
I read the article and found it to be fair and accurate. But of course, the person responsible for headlines wanted click-bait. I wish journalists would stand up and fight against misrepresentation of their work. But good journalism jobs are hard to find these days...
Knightshade
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The interesting thing about this recall is not only are they making driver monitoring stronger, they're finally going to lock out basic autopilot on MOST roads-- only allowing it on controlled access highways like folks like GM and Ford have done with their L2 ADAS- and something NTSB has been lobbying for for a long time vs Teslas "let the driver decide where to turn it on" policy.
In addition there'll be eventual suspension from Autosteer use if the driver repeatedly fails to demonstrate continuous and sustained driving responsibility.
Deeper discussion prob. belongs over here though:
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot feature after nearly 1,000 crashes New YorkCNN — Tesla is recalling nearly all 2 million of its cars on US roads to limit the use of its Autopilot feature after a review of nearly 1,000 crashes in which the feature was engaged. The...
teslamotorsclub.com
Words of HABIT
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All completely believable from Tesla, except for that last part starting at the 1:35 mark. I could swear that that is Grimes dancing in a bot suit again.
Buckminster
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Stocks (except TSLA) up on this news
I think not they just make more visible when it ON or OFF like Blue Cruise or other perhaps to add a color bar on the screenThe interesting thing about this recall is not only are they making driver monitoring stronger, they're finally going to lock out basic autopilot on MOST roads-- only allowing it on controlled access highways like folks like GM and Ford have done with their L2 ADAS- and something NTSB has been lobbying for for a long time vs Teslas "let the driver decide where to turn it on" policy.
In addition there'll be eventual suspension from Autosteer use if the driver repeatedly fails to demonstrate continuous and sustained driving responsibility.
Deeper discussion prob. belongs over here though:
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot feature after nearly 1,000 crashes New YorkCNN — Tesla is recalling nearly all 2 million of its cars on US roads to limit the use of its Autopilot feature after a review of nearly 1,000 crashes in which the feature was engaged. The...
JusRelax
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One of the bots was Grimes, and the other was real-time mimicking what Grimes was doing.
/s
Better dances down there.
I do not see anything about road type lockout. Rather, it explicitly calls out "using the feature outside controlled access highways"The interesting thing about this recall is not only are they making driver monitoring stronger, they're finally going to lock out basic autopilot on MOST roads-- only allowing it on controlled access highways like folks like GM and Ford have done with their L2 ADAS- and something NTSB has been lobbying for for a long time vs Teslas "let the driver decide where to turn it on" policy.
In addition there'll be eventual suspension from Autosteer use if the driver repeatedly fails to demonstrate continuous and sustained driving responsibility.
Deeper discussion prob. belongs over here though:
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot
Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot feature after nearly 1,000 crashes New YorkCNN — Tesla is recalling nearly all 2 million of its cars on US roads to limit the use of its Autopilot feature after a review of nearly 1,000 crashes in which the feature was engaged. The...
Agree this can continue in the other thread, but important clarification for any who read your post.
Knightshade
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FWIW my remarks were based on this story:
Tesla recalls nearly all vehicles sold in US to fix system that monitors drivers using Autopilot
Tesla is recalling nearly all vehicles sold in the U.S., more than 2 million, to update software and fix a defective system when using Autopilot.
apnews.com
From link:
The software update apparently will limit where Autosteer can be used.
“If the driver attempts to engage Autosteer when conditions are not met for engagement, the feature will alert the driver it is unavailable through visual and audible alerts, and Autosteer will not engage,” the recall documents said
That just says that it will alert when conditions are not met. It doesn't say new restrictions.FWIW my remarks were based on this story:
Tesla recalls nearly all vehicles sold in US to fix system that monitors drivers using Autopilot
Tesla is recalling nearly all vehicles sold in the U.S., more than 2 million, to update software and fix a defective system when using Autopilot.
From link:
The software update apparently will limit where Autosteer can be used.
“If the driver attempts to engage Autosteer when conditions are not met for engagement, the feature will alert the driver it is unavailable through visual and audible alerts, and Autosteer will not engage,” the recall documents said
It may simply be that they wanted better notification that Autosteer had not been engaged and whoever has written the article is reading too much into the statement.
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