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Haven't tried this with V12, but in the last two V11 releases, it goes back up almost immediately, so that method, which I used to use, is a non-starter for V11. Dialing down used to work (and maybe it does in V12, will try next time).Why don’t you just start dialing down your speed sooner so the car arrives at the school zone at the appropriate speed!? That’s all I do now. It’s easy to just give the car more runway so you arrive at the sign at the correct speed. The car slows down so gently that anyone behind you isn’t going to notice.
The issue is that the car doesn’t yet recognize the warning speed change signs.
There’s zero reason you can’t use FSD. You simply need to alter the timing of your actions at this point. One day you won’t.
You are just speculating with no first hand experience.To measure human interaction is measuring whether the car drives like a human, unsafely. Why would you want to measure that? If anything too many disengagement are being measured because humans are disengaging when they don't like what the car is doing, regardless of safety.
I’m confused because you said you disengage now as FSD isn’t useful. Where upon I said just give the car more runway. Then you posted the above.For sure -- that's what I mostly do... though right now it takes a couple of blocks to slow down from the normal speed limit to the school zone speed limit. It'd be nice if there were a happy medium.
Headroom is assuming Tesla will only add more and more complex algorithmis which chews up the limited memory avaliable. However we have seen the opposite is happening as Tesla is reducing complexity by taking away all the safety clutches in place because NN wasn't well trained enough years ago. This is just the beginning, lots of software optimization will be happening to improve performance. All the analysts 5 years ago believe the fsd computer will no way be enough to complete intervention free drives in major cities, and yet here we are.
There was nothing in the original post that suggested that Tesla should *give* away their system. In the interest of public safety and economic value, governments could pay Tesla for the FSD safety features for everyone.In other words, someone spends billions of dollars developing a system and now is forced to give it away. That's a real incentive to develop new products.
Sure, a bit of context as I worked on the rollout of traffic/routing/voice guidance/turn-by-turn nav for Google Maps so I'm very aware of the urban/rural challenges of car navigation/transport. And as roads are mainly traversed in 'interesting ways' there is a huge need to bring more order, safety and efficiency.@Discoduck Can you explain why India giga announcement signals a massive shift to autonomy?
Dialing down below your current max (posted) speed in anticipation of a lower speed change (new posted) had the car returning to the max (posted) speed? I’ve never had that happen. Or am I misunderstanding your situation?Haven't tried this with V12, but in the last two V11 releases, it goes back up almost immediately, so that method, which I used to use, is a non-starter for V11. Dialing down used to work (and maybe it does in V12, will try next time).
Maybe. I'd certainly like this as an owner, but not so sure as an investor. I'd need to see the data Tesla has. I suspect we'll get there as the chemistries evolve towards the "million mile" pack life. On the current and past packs, I'm not sure what liability would come with that extension. But, if you believe that Tesla is truly working on million mile worthy batteries and motors, you would agree that Tesla will be able to safely extend battery warranties in the future.My number two recommendation would be for Tesla to raise its battery warranty to at least 200,000 miles. I think Tesla could easily afford to replace the few battery packs that fail before 200,000 miles. Then the other automakers would have to raise their warranties as well.
But how will the batteries "vent"? /s
Been thinking... pressurizing a battery chamber is a nice idea, but why do it on CT and not on other models? Designed-to-float is one theory, here's another. It is based on several unsuccessful oil pan gasket changing days to fix a drip (without mass quantities of RTV).
My hunch says CT battery will be pressurized (also) because they come apart to reconfigure. Fact is, nothing is ever as good as a factory seal... so why not cover it with air pressure?
Just a theory folks, don't freak out on me, it's that Up-pack theory I have. Might even be the eventual extender pack, as that bed mount version was one key reason I didn't pull the trigger on CT.
I have not seen Monroe's tear down... does CT pack look any more serviceable than other packs?
Things that significantly improve public safety really shouldn’t be locked behind a subscription pay gate especially when all cars have the hardware and it’s merely a software toggle.
If FSD prevents accidents at high speed, can detect pedestrians and avoid hitting them, etc then doesn’t it seem a bit immoral to not make those features standard across the fleet? Not even for the driver’s sake, for the sake of other users on public roads.
Wow.“Lowest cost per kilometer in the electric SUV market (14.9 kWh/100 km)”
With only 2 passenger spots, how much will this be for the Robotaxi? It may become the most economic transport device wrt to energy per passengerkilometer.
Are these cells not good enough for Tesla stationary storage?
It is perhaps cruel of me to say...but I believe it's a cruel reality: MANY people, across many income levels (a) have no true idea where their money goes, and (b) are stuck living paycheck-to-pacheck, in part, because they spend what's in their pocket on non-necessities without thinking it matters, and then struggle with the bills at the end of the month that should be easily predictable. Paycheck-to-paycheck, for many, is also due to a signing up for enough monthly payments (mortgage, car, subscriptoins, etc.) to consume every month's income without adequately valueing a need for savings, etc.
I have no idea about the validity of the data, but at least one google-able study suggests that in the US "63% of employees can't cover an unexpected $500 expense." Nearly 2/3's of people just not having an extra $500 for an emergency is mentally shocking. At such a high percentage, we know this isn't just people with poverty or lower-middle-class incomes. There are people with pretty sizeable incomes in this category too.
With that in mind:
There are a lot of people who hear EV and just think "my electic bill will go up and it's already too high!". I believe that many people top up their gas tank with the cash in their pocket, and for them throwing a couple twenties over the counter every few days doesn't seem like it really adds up to much. There are also people who pay on credit card, so the many gas transactions are just part of the credit card bill at the end of the month. Either way, gasoline is a bunch of small/separate transactions so people don't see what it adds up to...and they can't really imagine that those "mandatory" expenses will go away and be replaced by a smaller addition to their electric bill.
For many people, there is also the problem that they seem to be itching to spend what's in their pocket without thinking. Stop at the ATM when their pocket is empty, spend the cash until its gone, then hit the ATM again. For people who are used to carrying around cash to pay for topping up their gas tank, they probably pay cash for many "impulse" type purchases as well. If the cash purchases of gas go away, for many people, that money will still get spent on something else. At the end of the month, the "gas money" will still have been spent, AND their electric bill will be higher than before. Until they can resolve that pattern, such people could end up feeling even more pinched at the end of the month if they own an EV.
We’ve discovered that using the right scroll wheel to dial the speed up or down while in Supervised FSD no longer works if you have set it to “Automatic Set Speed Offset” in the Autopilot menu. (FSD Supervised v12.3.3.) For now we have decided to leave that setting off. (I meant to turn it off this morning but forgot. It did a 29 mile trip from my house in Savannah to a business in Rincon with no disengagements. No school zones, but it did go about 13mph over the limit a couple times, I guess to keep up with the flow of traffic.). With the setting off I can set it at +10%, then use the scroll wheel to increase it to +9 or 10 mph or slow it down if needed.Why don’t you just start dialing down your speed sooner so the car arrives at the school zone at the appropriate speed!? That’s all I do now. It’s easy to just give the car more runway so you arrive at the sign at the correct speed. The car slows down so gently that anyone behind you isn’t going to notice.
The issue is that the car doesn’t yet recognize the warning speed change signs.
There’s zero reason you can’t use FSD. You simply need to alter the timing of your actions at this point. One day you won’t.
How is it they have brutal valuations given their business finances? They’ve both been headed to bankruptcy for a long time and are picking up speed.
While Tesla prepared themselves for tough times, these two went and spent money on new designer wardrobes.
Um - where do you think governments get their money?There was nothing in the original post that suggested that Tesla should *give* away their system. In the interest of public safety and economic value, governments could pay Tesla for the FSD safety features for everyone.
How much should a state or national government pay Tesla for this?
Ah! So that's the secret!We’ve discovered that using the right scroll wheel to dial the speed up or down while in Supervised FSD no longer works if you have set it to “Automatic Set Speed Offset” in the Autopilot menu. (FSD Supervised v12.3.3.) For now we have decided to leave that setting off. (I meant to turn it off this morning but forgot. It did a 29 mile trip from my house in Savannah to a business in Rincon with no disengagements. No school zones, but it did go about 13mph over the limit a couple times, I guess to keep up with the flow of traffic.). With the setting off I can set it at +10%, then use the scroll wheel to increase it to +9 or 10 mph or slow it down if needed.
Ah, ok. I don’t use that setting. Good to know.We’ve discovered that using the right scroll wheel to dial the speed up or down while in Supervised FSD no longer works if you have set it to “Automatic Set Speed Offset” in the Autopilot menu. (FSD Supervised v12.3.3.) For now we have decided to leave that setting off. (I meant to turn it off this morning but forgot. It did a 29 mile trip from my house in Savannah to a business in Rincon with no disengagements. No school zones, but it did go about 13mph over the limit a couple times, I guess to keep up with the flow of traffic.). With the setting off I can set it at +10%, then use the scroll wheel to increase it to +9 or 10 mph or slow it down if needed.