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Tesla unable to transfer FSD due to firmware compatibility?

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If you’re going to re-buy FSD, you’ll pay full price, so there’s no point in transferring it to the new car.
Right, I'm trying to confirm that the old vehicle actually still needs to pay the full price or if one can re-buy it at a lower price effectively letting you buy FSD on a new vehicle for a lower price previously offered on the old vehicle.
 
After getting to the end of this thread, some of the thread discussion is on 2018s that "couldnt" purchase FSD at the time of purchase (like @EVRider-FL mentions and someone else as well). When I purchased my Model 3 in Dec of 2018, the only thing I could buy was EAP.

"Regular autopilot" was not a thing you could buy yet (that happened in 2019), and Tesla did not even offer "FSD" for purchase at that time for model 3s, they had removed the ability to purchase it.

I am not quite sure of the cutoff, but I am fairly sure that people who purchased model 3s in Third quarter of 2018 had the option to buy FSD if they wanted, but I know in Nov of 2018 when I started looking at model 3s, I couldnt add it to my order.
 
Come to this thread today. I did purchased Model 3 in June 2018 with EAP and latter in a promotion upgraded to FSD. Did everyone who initially have problem to transfer the FSD, successfully got around this?

I order an Y to suppose the FSD transfer from my 2018 3, and later I filled form which provided by local Sales. I had also got the VIN for the Y. If my FSD could not be transferred I will refuse to take delivery even if that mean I lost the deposit.
 
Our new Model Y is great, the quality and fun of the car makes up for the mediocre ordering and delivery experience. Tesla needs to hire someone from Disney to train the service center teams - or at least get them to smile and say "hello, how may we help you?" You walk in all excited about your new car and then you end up feeling like you wandered into the DMV office. This is our third Tesla and we love the cars. In 2016 the delivery experience made you feel really special, with a big bow on the hood and the feeling that Tesla really valued you as a customer. This experience made us feel like just another car out the door for Tesla.
I also had noticed this among the three vehicle purchases in my household.
  • For my first Model S in 2016, the car had the bow on it, you got a nice assortment of gifts, the delivery center wasn't crazy busy, and the delivery specialist was great to go over everything, spending as much as 30 minutes to go over every detail of inspecting and operating the vehicle.
  • For the Model 3 in early 2018 (the early months of customer deliveries), it was also a mostly positive experience but not quite the same as the early 2016.
  • Then I got my second Model S in mid-2018 and it was basically, sign some paperwork in a crowded lobby then walked to your car as the delivery specialist tried to get to the next customer. However, it was the last few days of a quarter so I suppose that was on me.
Since then, I've heard the delivery experience has drastically changed and that special feeling is a thing of the past.

Btw, congrats on being able to transfer FSD Beta!
 
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Come to this thread today. I did purchased Model 3 in June 2018 with EAP and latter in a promotion upgraded to FSD. Did everyone who initially have problem to transfer the FSD, successfully got around this?

I order an Y to suppose the FSD transfer from my 2018 3, and later I filled form which provided by local Sales. I had also got the VIN for the Y. If my FSD could not be transferred I will refuse to take delivery even if that mean I lost the deposit.
So I just put the deposit down for an inventory Y yesterday. The previous day the Tesla associate told me about the APF1 Firmware "issue". I had known nothing about it so I left but found this thread (thank you community for posting about it!). Went back yesterday. The key really is getting someone in service to look it up. I think it's pretty specific to owners of Tesla that were purchased without FSD before the FSD computer was updated. As we all know, the FSD computer was part of the upgrade. The service associate was explaining how she could see how the error was made. I really think this needs to be communicated at the company level because I could see someone else giving up on it.

Now I have a few days until pickup. My app asked if I wanted to transfer the FSD to the new Y. I said yes yesterday. My old 3 still had it this morning, so no idea how long it takes to completely remove (would love it to be soon as I'd like to sell my car to CarMax for additional down payment).
 
So I just put the deposit down for an inventory Y yesterday. The previous day the Tesla associate told me about the APF1 Firmware "issue". I had known nothing about it so I left but found this thread (thank you community for posting about it!). Went back yesterday. The key really is getting someone in service to look it up. I think it's pretty specific to owners of Tesla that were purchased without FSD before the FSD computer was updated. As we all know, the FSD computer was part of the upgrade. The service associate was explaining how she could see how the error was made. I really think this needs to be communicated at the company level because I could see someone else giving up on it.

Now I have a few days until pickup. My app asked if I wanted to transfer the FSD to the new Y. I said yes yesterday. My old 3 still had it this morning, so no idea how long it takes to completely remove (would love it to be soon as I'd like to sell my car to CarMax for additional down payment).
When was this? I thought this problem has been fixed and later on no one had the same issue.
 
When was this? I thought this problem has been fixed and later on no one had the same issue.
Happened on 8/19/23 to me at the Glendale, AZ Tesla Store. The woman that first helped me just pulled the "sales" data up with the firmware and said it wasn't possible. I was ignorant to the whole thing at that point and wasn't sure what to say. Found this thread and came back armed with some info (I had just remembered the email Tesla sent me about it as well right after I left). The one that helped me knew I was frustrated from the day before. Walked away for a while (checking the service info I presume). Came back and explained it was allowed and gave a very similar reason as was given in here (sales side sees it incorrectly).
 
Happened on 8/19/23 to me at the Glendale, AZ Tesla Store. The woman that first helped me just pulled the "sales" data up with the firmware and said it wasn't possible. I was ignorant to the whole thing at that point and wasn't sure what to say. Found this thread and came back armed with some info (I had just remembered the email Tesla sent me about it as well right after I left). The one that helped me knew I was frustrated from the day before. Walked away for a while (checking the service info I presume). Came back and explained it was allowed and gave a very similar reason as was given in here (sales side sees it incorrectly).
May be different ppl in Tesla handles this differently. I was asked to sign up the transfer form and was asked to pick up FSD option at time of ordering new Y. Few days latter, the FSD option automatically disappeared from my order. I emailed Tesla and got the answer that my FSD is in process to be transferred and the new process no longer required FSD on the sales bill. To me that may mean there is no such stupid AFP firmware issue, otherwise someone in Tesla will inform me.

NVM, I emailed Tesla again now to confirm.
 
May be different ppl in Tesla handles this differently. I was asked to sign up the transfer form and was asked to pick up FSD option at time of ordering new Y. Few days latter, the FSD option automatically disappeared from my order. I emailed Tesla and got the answer that my FSD is in process to be transferred and the new process no longer required FSD on the sales bill. To me that may mean there is no such stupid AFP firmware issue, otherwise someone in Tesla will inform me.

NVM, I emailed Tesla again now to confirm.
Yeah it's obviously a symptom of poor internal communication on policy changes made on Earnings Calls, but all these years, I'm sort of used to it with Tesla.

For me it's all about timing. I need to sell my current Tesla. Would love to have it sold before pickup so I can put a lot more down on it. I might try calling/emailing them to see if I can get a green light to sell. Of course...my title hasn't come in the mail yet either (due any day now). I should have waited an extra week or two to avoid some of this stress. :)
 
For me it's all about timing. I need to sell my current Tesla. Would love to have it sold before pickup so I can put a lot more down on it. I might try calling/emailing them to see if I can get a green light to sell. Of course...my title hasn't come in the mail yet either (due any day now). I should have waited an extra week or two to avoid some of this stress. :)
I'd be very careful, as you would be breaking the conditions of the transfer rules - so basically Tesla can just pull FSD from the new vehicle if they find out you have sold the 'donor' vehicle before taking possession of the new one. I'd only try that if you can get written confirmation that they will not do that.
 
I'd be very careful, as you would be breaking the conditions of the transfer rules - so basically Tesla can just pull FSD from the new vehicle if they find out you have sold the 'donor' vehicle before taking possession of the new one. I'd only try that if you can get written confirmation that they will not do that.
Yes for sure...unless I am 100% sure, I wouldn't do it. Just kind of sucks that I have to secure financing without it since I don't want to cave to Tesla lowball trade in offers.