I see there are new stats an a graph available with teslafi now. I'm curious as to how accurate this looks for some of you long-time users of the service.
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teslafi battery degredation report
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seems reasonable except for the 'trend line'
>85% charges
>50% Charges
& this is just looking at the max range in the Teslafi data(started using it 11/16)
>85% charges
>50% Charges
& this is just looking at the max range in the Teslafi data(started using it 11/16)
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Yeah, I see the same thing with my trend line, although I only have a few months worth of data to work with. I put the data into Excel and used its trend line, which fits the data better, but doesn't necessarily reflect reality either. 
Here is the Excel graph with trend line:
Here is the Excel graph with trend line:
I had one range mode charge in the mix, which became my "high range". This created the slope line showing degradation that isn't really there ...it would be good if you could select or filter the charges you wanted to include to omit range charges and also to select charges that were exactly 90% instead of 90% or above.
milleron
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The Teslafi guys are data gurus, but the average lines do look funny. My "high vs low" drop was 1.7%, but the "high vs current" was 0.0%. I've had the car less than a year, and I suspect the "high vs low" is reflecting a difference in ambient temperatures over the winter (and much-colder-than-average March and April) more than actual battery degradation. Now that we finally are seeing some near-average spring temps, my range at 60% charge is exactly where it was when the car was new, early last summer. Because of seasonal variations, I don't think these degradation numbers will be very meaningful until a car has a couple of years of data points.
barjohn
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If you have more than one Tesla it combines the data into one line. It doesn't separate the data by vehicle.
skitch23
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My car was a CPO and it was in service for 41 months prior to me owning it. I know I'm not anywhere close to qualifying, but at what point does Tesla say a battery is in need of a warranty replacement vs it being "normal degradation"? 11 miles in a little over a year is more than I would have hoped to see.... especially since it hadn't lost that much in the nearly 3.5yrs combined before I got it. I mean, hell, at this rate in two more years, I'll be struggling to drive to/from CA without more SC's being installed in AZ.
The max range is very dependent on temperature. I am in an area that is mostly 50-70F year round. The data points that are at 80-90 all show 252-3 rated(>90 254) where around 50-60 it is 249-50. @ 30F 247
The warranty does not cover degradation. It's up to them to give you a replacement battery or not. A few people got one (you don't get a new one, you get one that has the same or better range) but they had more serious issues. Other than Tesloop, I don't know anyone that got a replacement battery due to degradation
skitch23
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I know it doesn't cover degradation. That wasn't what I was asking. At what point does Tesla consider it to be a problem with the battery and NOT normal degradation.
It could also be lack of balancing instead of degradation. Charge to 100% and try to run it down to 0% or close to 0%. That will re-balance the pack and might result in more miles..
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