McHoffa
CyberOwners
The Bolt seats are awful. My 2013 Leaf feels better.This is impossible. Folks here have decried any criticism of the Bolt's seats!
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The Bolt seats are awful. My 2013 Leaf feels better.This is impossible. Folks here have decried any criticism of the Bolt's seats!
It does if you have a smartphone. CarPlay and Android Auto are really useful. Not enough to buy a Bolt over a Model 3 though!Hopefully when the short range Model 3 comes out, they'll do just that. Plan a 500 mile route with all three vehicles and let the on-board route planners figure out the best routes using the available fast charging infrastructure. That will paint a very clear picture of the big differences between the vehicles (especially since the Bolt doesn't have navigation).
But...the Bolt does have Carplay and Android Auto....and a heated steering steel.Hopefully when the short range Model 3 comes out, they'll do just that. Plan a 500 mile route with all three vehicles and let the on-board route planners figure out the best routes using the available fast charging infrastructure. That will paint a very clear picture of the big differences between the vehicles (especially since the Bolt doesn't have navigation).
But...the Bolt does have Carplay and Android Auto....and a heated steering steel.
Edit: ^^...what he said.
and 360 surround view... two things the Leaf has also had for years.Yeah ... I'm pretty disappointed that it appears the Model 3 will not have a heated steering wheel.
You are not thinking this through. A 400 mile trip is 200 miles there and back. People who buy a Bolt or LEAF are taking a Tesla or ICE car for these trips. How about a trip 100 miles each way ? Can a Bolt do it at 75 mph with A/C ? How about in the winter ?
I do need the range. My Leaf is great most of the time but a few times it’s been a pain in the butt. Range anxiety is real.I'm still saying there aren't all that many people taking those trips, by the numbers, or they're so uncommon they could easily rent a car for it. Most people who say "I need the range" are lying to others and themselves, just like the people who claim "I need AWD" when snow tires are what they should be buying for their urban winter driving, or buy an SUV because "I need to tow!" when they borrow a boat once every two summers.
Are there people who legitimately need these things? Yes. But most of them are just too cowardly to admit they just want to buy the thing because they like it. Or they're brainwashed and stupid.
I do need the range. My Leaf is great most of the time but a few times it’s been a pain in the butt. Range anxiety is real.
Sure, I could rent a car twice a year for our family trips, and multiple other times throughout the year when we take off for the weekend to visit friends. But that’s more expense, and more inconvenience, going out of my way to pick up and drop off the car... I want to drive my own car.
...and then the fact that since I got my Leaf 18 months ago I hate driving my wife’s ICE car. I wouldn’t want to rent a noisy ICE for our long trips. I am ready for an EV for that (plus autopilot) and Tesla is my only option.
I don’t NEED the Model 3, or any new car, but if I’m going to buy a new car it’s going to be one that can be our primary car and be a car I actually want. Otherwise I’d just consider a slightly used accord or something when my wife’s car needed to be replaced.
Motor Trend found the Model 3's rear seats the most uncomfortable of the 3 cars. No wai!The Bolt seats are awful. My 2013 Leaf feels better.
Motor Trend found the Model 3's rear seats the most uncomfortable of the 3 cars. No wai!
Seems to me a comparison between a city car with a no-range anxiety battery, a city car with a range anxiety battery, and an all-around car useful for both local and long-distance travel and doesn't look like
Good thing I'll never sit back there. If people in the back don't like the seats, they can drive on their own.
Sounds like the 3 wouldn't be a very good road trip car for 4 adults then? Is that what you're saying?
Motor Trend found the Model 3's rear seats the most uncomfortable of the 3 cars. No wai!
"As for seat comfort in general, Brooks found the Tesla’s and Leaf’s front seats more comfortable than the Bolt’s—the Chevy’s bottom cushion is too narrow; its little side bolsters cut into his thighs."
I doubt that my case is so unusual. I have a 250 mile drive as often as once a week. Car rental once or twice a year -- sure.I'm still saying there aren't all that many people taking those trips, by the numbers, or they're so uncommon they could easily rent a car for it
I doubt that my case is so unusual. I have a 250 mile drive as often as once a week. Car rental once or twice a year -- sure.
Every week ? Not if I can help it.
The Bolt’s front seats are terrible (as noted in the article). Back seats are roomy and a lot of head room but nothing great. Just better than the front.Motor Trend found the Model 3's rear seats the most uncomfortable of the 3 cars. No wai!