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Would be interesting to play the middle man in this -
Offer to buy folks full FSD when available, in return you collect 2500 dollars.
Sure the price will go up, but depending on the amount of time until FSD,
many folks will sell their car, crash their car, etc...
So the question that I have is with FSD has there ever been a CLEAR indication of what will happen with the retrofit? For example i have S75 with AP 2.0 - clearly already missing out on dashcam, sentry and other features to come. However if for $3k I could get a full retrofit HW 3 plus with all the aforementioned features plus the ability to scale it could be worth it. I just don’t want to get some band aid solution because I have 2.0 with different cameras and HW etc.... that’s my dilemmaThere's no such thing as "FSD", it's a process, a concept, not an endpost.
A lot like Achilles and the tortoise. It's half way to the goal at every step.
So it would be hard to agree at what degree it would qualify as "available".
Personally I find every current half-step worthwhile.
So the question that I have is with FSD has there ever been a CLEAR indication of what will happen with the retrofit? For example i have S75 with AP 2.0 - clearly already missing out on dashcam, sentry and other features to come. However if for $3k I could get a full retrofit HW 3 plus with all the aforementioned features plus the ability to scale it could be worth it. I just don’t want to get some band aid solution because I have 2.0 with different cameras and HW etc.... that’s my dilemma
All I really want is the new chip, but I'm not sure I'd want to pay even $1000 for that.
That's my main desire for FSD as well. Paying almost $3,000 a year for my commute at the moment... By my main worry is that even if the car could go park itself, city regulations might not catch up with the technology for the life of the car.
I believe Elon's plan is to increase FSD significantly. Assuming his estimate that these FSD cars can be added to the robotaxi network and make up to $30k a year, the price will have to go up else "scalpers" will just buy up all the cars and use them as robotaxis. Demand will increase as will FSD.
While Robotaxis will definitely transform transportation, increasing the price of FSD "significantly" will just price it out of the market. (Heck, one could argue its priced out of the market already.) The top selling autos have staring list prices around $19-23k. If Elon wants to sell millions model 3 and model y, there is no way he can continue to price them at $50k. The masses just don't have that kinda money. Alternatively, Elon can continue to sell and upscale car, and compete with the best German and Japanese machines, but that's not his stated mission.
So with Model 3 EAP with HW 2.5, if one spends the $3000 and upgrades to FSD, when do you predict the HW 3 hardware upgrade be available? When the first feature that is not in EAP is released? When FSD is feature complete? When regulatory approval happens where the car is registered?
Didn’t Elon just say version 10 (expected Aug/Sept) will have some FSD features rolled out like the stop sign and traffic light piece?when the first non-EAP feature is rolled out which is by end of year....coincidentally last time he was asked about it Musk said he expected Q4 for the computer upgrades to start as well
Didn’t Elon just say version 10 (expected Aug/Sept) will have some FSD features rolled out like the stop sign and traffic light piece?
Just pulled the trigger for $3k FSD and could not be more stoked! I went back and forth a bunch, and ultimately what gave me the most comfort is the fact that I’m keeping this car for a decade, and by the time I go to sell it, hopefully the value of FSD will likely be more than the $3k it is today. Plus any future-proofing of the car will also help with resale value. Can’t wait to start seeing features rolled out, even if they are on Elon time