Tracking P85D delivery thread

[SteelGrey]

Congrats - hopefully I'm right behind you - went into production on 12/16 and still there for now. VIN 63806.

Yes!! "Production Complete" on 63808

Went into production on Tuesday 12/16, production complete today 12/20 within the last hour. Hopefully just a few days to get to Denver!

P85D multi-coat red, tan interior, black headliner, grey 21s, all options except 3rd row.


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[skilly]

It may not be ideal for either party involved, but it was 100% Tesla's fault, so it makes sense that Tesla take 100% of the responsibility for it. As customers, we did nothing wrong by expecting our cars to be delivered as ordered by the dates they were promised. For us to expect some sort of concession from Tesla for that not happening, even if it is just something tenuous in the future, is, in my opinion, not out of line. For you to suggest that because Tesla is also losing money in this situation, we should be satisfied with getting nothing, is, again, in my opinion, somewhat off the mark. They delivered less than they promised. Not by much. This is not the end of the world, and as I wrote earlier, I'm fine with thinking that at some point, when I need something, Tesla will come through for me because of this. But to suggest that Tesla was not at all in the wrong here just rubs me the wrong way.

Sorry but where did I say that TM wasnt in the wrong? I think I either used the wrong words or you decided to interpret it the way you were feeling on the subject. I'm just giving the topic some additional perspective.

In fact, I don't believe that I mentioned wrong or right except to say that Tesla wasnt getting away unscathed. The burden hasn't been fully placed on us as customers and with all of the appearance of ill will being demonstrated across the 300 pages in this thread as well as the black hole, its left me wondering why some are bothering, or maybe its in their nature to look at things from a negative perspective or perhaps a "whats in it for me"...the tone of some parts of this thread is really quite negative.

Your opinion to seek some act of equalization in the future wasn't being contested with my thoughts. To suggest that I was attacking that concept is simply untrue.

 

[Andyw2100]

Sorry but where did I say that TM wasnt in the wrong? I think I either used the wrong words or you decided to interpret it the way you were feeling on the subject. I'm just giving the topic some additional perspective.

In fact, I don't believe that I mentioned wrong or right except to say that Tesla wasnt getting away unscathed. The burden hasn't been fully placed on us as customers and with all of the appearance of ill will being demonstrated across the 300 pages in this thread as well as the black hole, its left me wondering why some are bothering, or maybe its in their nature to look at things from a negative perspective or perhaps a "whats in it for me"...the tone of some parts of this thread is really quite negative.

Your opinion to seek some act of equalization in the future wasn't being contested with my thoughts. To suggest that I was attacking that concept is simply untrue.

I'm sorry if my post made it seem like I thought you didn't think Tesla had done anything wrong. I think we're pretty much on the same page here.

One thing Tesla has going for them is as Bonnie points out, many of us are interested in fostering the relationship, and apparently they are too. The question, though, is how well that's going to scale in the future. I don't think Tesla can expect the kind of pretty accepting response many of us have from the huge number of model 3 buyers. But I guess we can leave that to Tesla to work out in the future.

 

[mesalum]

In the shop getting paint protection, tint, etc.,

Mine is there with yours. I was at the shop today checking on my P85 and saw a white P85D. Nice car. I like those front seats.

 

[skilly]

I'm sorry if my post made it seem like I thought you didn't think Tesla had done anything wrong. I think we're pretty much on the same page here.

One thing Tesla has going for them is as Bonnie points out, many of us are interested in fostering the relationship, and apparently they are too. The question, though, is how well that's going to scale in the future. I don't think Tesla can expect the kind of pretty accepting response many of us have from the huge number of model 3 buyers. But I guess we can leave that to Tesla to work out in the future.

I agree (saw Bonnies post too)! Its gonna be tough but there are examples out there. Typically, it comes through at the rank and file level - finding that person in the sea of corporate that will safe harbor us through the juggernaut that it can be.

Case in point, I purchased a 2014 Porsche 911 TT earlier this year and a rock pierced the front radiator - blew it up completely. I hadnt had the car more than 100 miles and the dealership did the full day replacement and covered the parts (about as much as NG seats). Moreover, they took on the justification with corporate so that I didnt have to...if they wanted to they could have taken the hard line, but knew that it would have gone over poorly - they really stepped up when it counted and I am a very loyal customer as a result. I see TM doing the same thing (and that fits with your description too).

thanks for clarifying - we are on the same page and I suspect many feel that same way.

 

[randompersonx]

Sorry but where did I say that TM wasnt in the wrong? I think I either used the wrong words or you decided to interpret it the way you were feeling on the subject. I'm just giving the topic some additional perspective.

In fact, I don't believe that I mentioned wrong or right except to say that Tesla wasnt getting away unscathed. The burden hasn't been fully placed on us as customers and with all of the appearance of ill will being demonstrated across the 300 pages in this thread as well as the black hole, its left me wondering why some are bothering, or maybe its in their nature to look at things from a negative perspective or perhaps a "whats in it for me"...the tone of some parts of this thread is really quite negative.

Your opinion to seek some act of equalization in the future wasn't being contested with my thoughts. To suggest that I was attacking that concept is simply untrue.

I don't want anything more than what was promised, and some communication to allow for me to reasonably plan things. I am excited for the car, but that doesn't make it normal that I still have not seen my finance docs for a car about to be delivered.

When Tesla scales up to 100,000+ cars a year, there won't be a huge percentage of fanboys buying, and people will not tolerate this kind of disorganization. I want Tesla to succeed, and they NEED to improve their communication and organization.

 

[Boeing777]

My DS is still holding firm on Dec 27. He knows we'll be flying in to TPA and Tesla rep will be picking us up. He's pretty sure we don't have the next gen seats.

 

[skilly]

I don't want anything more than what was promised, and some communication to allow for me to reasonably plan things. I am excited for the car, but that doesn't make it normal that I still have not seen my finance docs for a car about to be delivered.

When have you seen finance docs from a dealer come long before you receive the car? I must be missing something...the way things usually go is the docs and driving away with the car happen the same day. Unless youre arranging your own financing outside of the car company - they broker the financing that day. Ive never seen it done any other way. What you are asking for isn't normal - you should let them know about this special request.

In fact, Tesla is a step above. Their finance team shops the best rate up front. Then they provide you a summary of options so that you can choose the best option for you. Then they tell you what to bring the day of your delivery.

 

[OFF OIL]

It may not be ideal for either party involved, but it was 100% Tesla's fault, so it makes sense that Tesla take 100% of the responsibility for it. As customers, we did nothing wrong by expecting our cars to be delivered as ordered by the dates they were promised. For us to expect some sort of concession from Tesla for that not happening, even if it is just something tenuous in the future, is, in my opinion, not out of line. For you to suggest that because Tesla is also losing money in this situation, we should be satisfied with getting nothing, is, again, in my opinion, somewhat off the mark. They delivered less than they promised. Not by much. This is not the end of the world, and as I wrote earlier, I'm fine with thinking that at some point, when I need something, Tesla will come through for me because of this. But to suggest that Tesla was not at all in the wrong here just rubs me the wrong way.

I have been following along silently with this thread as this delivery process is interesting to me as a shareholder and someone considering an upgrade.

I feel, while many of you have legitimate concerns about the seat swap and the remuneration you feel you may be due from Tesla, that in the grand scheme of things this is a total non issue and it is in your best interest to take delivery and enjoy the process for what it is.

I am such a happy owner. Legitimately, I talk to someone about this company, it's importance, and the innovation and overall customer service I have received... Every. Single. Day.

i have been treated so well by Tesla that I can never and will never consider another vehicle brand again. They have replaced ski rack flaps I broke for free, in my garage. At a time convenient to me. I had an mystery puncture to my rear seat. After informing them, they replaced it. In my garage. For free, no questions asked. I have a personal relationship with cell phone contact to my local service manager. He knows me and all of his customers by name.

You will forget about this seat problem so quickly. As a model s owner, you are cutting edge, incredibly fortunate, and are about to fall in love with driving all over again. I mean that. Just wait.

And, this is coming from a guy that had his car put in a loaner fleet for 500 miles of driving by a service center that mistook my car for a loaner instead of an owner purchased vehicle. Yep, that happened. And this is my perspective after that mishap. I wasn't even the first person (non-Tesla) to drive my own car. And, I still feel this is the most important and conscientious car manufacturer in the world.

Sorry about the long post but i thought some other perspective might help calm some of the storming going on in this thread.

 

[crazybrit]

randompersonx is correct.

The easiest way to tell the next gen seats from the others, at least in my mind, is by the vertical seam in the middle that's present on the older seats but not on the next gen seats. If you go to the teslamotors.com site and look at the two seat options you can look at the differences. That vertical seam jumped out at me as something easy to spot. The size of the bolsters, of course is another big difference, but looking at just one seat it might be hard to judge size. The seam or lack of the seam is a dead give-away.

good tip. Thanks

 

[Andyw2100]

Sorry about the long post but i thought some other perspective might help calm some of the storming going on in this thread.

Thanks for that perspective.

I've been spending a heck of a lot of time reading the posts here. My wife thinks I'm completely out of my mind. I think overall there hasn't been all that much grumbling in this thread. Heck--we even started a separate thread to handle a lot of that! I know I am much more excited than anything else. The slight grumbling I may be contributing is probably a tenth of one percent of what I'm feeling about the car and Tesla.

 

[Muskol]

YESSS. Finally out of the hole!
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Congrats, absolutely love the brown! Haven't ordered one and a little bummed out that I won't be able to get brown if/when the time comes. Enjoy, I'm sure it's the last thing on your mind, but PM me if you're ever selling, I'm local.

 

[Andyw2100]

This car had 63143 VIN. Sorry, I did not note the seats on your particular car, but the couple I looked at had NG black seats in front, but older seats with new headrests in the back. The headrests in the back are bigger and are brought forward more than old seats. In fact because of this the rear parcel shelf now is not deep enough to cover all the area between the back of the seats anfd the lift gate.

I had meant to ask about this when I first read it this morning, but got side-tracked.

Are you saying that the new parcel shelf does not fully conceal the contents of what is in the hatch when the hatch is closed (with the new rear seats with taller head rests--not the next generation seats, since you did not see those.) That would seem to be an issue of some concern, no?

Also could one of the very few people who has rear next generation seats comment on whether or not the parcel shelf completely covers the back area. Volt?

Thanks!

 

[stevezzzz]

Yes!! "Production Complete" on 63808

Went into production on Tuesday 12/16, production complete today 12/20 within the last hour. Hopefully just a few days to get to Denver!

P85D multi-coat red, tan interior, black headliner, grey 21s, all options except 3rd row.

Congratulations! But this is also making me a little crazy: yours is another Denver-delivery MC Red that also started production on 12/16, and mine is still moving through the line somewhere. I'll be interested to hear what your delivery date ends up being, and whether they put together a truckload of P85Ds for Denver delivery.

 

[tcampos]

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Well, now it is looking highly unlikely that I will pick up my car tomorrow. Tesla sent me paperwork today to pay for my car today at 11:00. My pickup was scheduled for tomorrow at 2:00pm. I elected for an electronic payment as it is easiest - I am paying cash. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]At 6:00 pm I receive another email from tesla stating that electronic payments need to be completed 3 days prior. REALLY? Now you tell me when the banks are closed?[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Isn't this what the delivery specialist is for? To make sure the transaction happens properly and on time? My specialist is absolutely useless. Has never informed me of something I didn't already know from another channel and has done absolutely NOTHING to make this transaction easier. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Frustrated. And other than posting this, what can I do? Absolutely nothing. These guys - unfortunately - are still amateurs. [/COLOR]

 

[breser]

Well, now it is looking highly unlikely that I will pick up my car tomorrow. Tesla sent me paperwork today to pay for my car today at 11:00. My pickup was scheduled for tomorrow at 2:00pm. I elected for an electronic payment as it is easiest - I am paying cash.
At 6:00 pm I receive another email from tesla stating that electronic payments need to be completed 3 days prior. REALLY? Now you tell me when the banks are closed?
Isn't this what the delivery specialist is for? To make sure the transaction happens properly and on time? My specialist is absolutely useless. Has never informed me of something I didn't already know from another channel and has done absolutely NOTHING to make this transaction easier. Frustrated. And other than posting this, what can I do? Absolutely nothing. These guys - unfortunately - are still amateurs.

Looking back at my email from my DS for my first order it was suggested the day before. I recall there being some other information that said 2 days in advance, because I remember being determined to get things done 2 days before the delivery. So maybe there is something on the dashboard to this effect.

I'd suggest that you get ahold of your DS, I'm sure they can work something out.

 

[skilly]

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Well, now it is looking highly unlikely that I will pick up my car tomorrow. Tesla sent me paperwork today to pay for my car today at 11:00. My pickup was scheduled for tomorrow at 2:00pm. I elected for an electronic payment as it is easiest - I am paying cash. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]At 6:00 pm I receive another email from tesla stating that electronic payments need to be completed 3 days prior. REALLY? Now you tell me when the banks are closed?[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Isn't this what the delivery specialist is for? To make sure the transaction happens properly and on time? My specialist is absolutely useless. Has never informed me of something I didn't already know from another channel and has done absolutely NOTHING to make this transaction easier. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Frustrated. And other than posting this, what can I do? Absolutely nothing. These guys - unfortunately - are still amateurs. [/COLOR]

Weren't you also provided a Financial Specialist? That delay is pretty standard for an electronic payment - especially if the two banking institutions aren't the same. If you want to take possession on Monday, you should opt for a bank draft - they should be fine for that as payment.

 

[DPDsModelS]

I'm getting my car delivered tomorrow, from the Mt. Kisco service center. My DS really came through for Me.

This afternoon, shortly before 2:00, I received an e-mail message from my DS indicating that the car may not make it by tomorrow, and asking about other options. I wrote back, and he called me around 2:30 to tell me the car would not finish detailing in time to get a NYS inspection today, so I would not be able to get the car tomorrow. He did say that there was some way to handle it if I wanted to somehow handle the inspection (I think without even being able to drive the car) but I didn't entertain that option at all, because I'm not comfortable trying to get someone local to inspect the car at this point. I'd rather have that aspect of things done the standard way, and delay delivery if need be.

I asked if there was any possible way the car could be squeezed in for inspection before detailing was finished, and then go back for the rest of the detailing. My DS said he'd see what he could do, and about 45 minutes later wrote to say that he was able to make it happen! So some time late tomorrow afternoon I should be driving my new P85D! My DS definitely came through. And when this is all over, I'll be sure to let Jerome Guillen know that!

I'm attaching a couple of pictures he sent me, including one of the interior, which shows the non-next generation grey leather seats and the matte obeche trim.
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I was in Mt. Kisco this morning and saw your car. That's my Benz parked next to your car that I was trading in before picking up the rental Tesla is providing for me. Sam and Peter were great and talking about getting your car to Ithaca tomorrow. Went for a test ride with Peter and am still in awe of the power of the D! My son is still giddy from the experience. Sam walked me through everything I need to know before picking up the car on Tuesday and even showed me where the transporter was in Tennessee!

Your car is in great hands and I'm sure you'll have a very wide Tesla grin tomorrow!

 

[EarlyAdopter]

I plan to do a thorough inspection of cosmetic aspects, and a test drive to check for squeaks and rattles

Actually, that's a good point. Does anyone know if Tesla will let you take the car for a test drive before signing to accept it?

I've not heard of anyone doing that, but it doesn't sound like an unreasonable request.

When I took delivery two years ago my delivery specialist wasn't in any hurry to have me sign the paperwork, and in fact I did even drive the car a short distance, from the parking lot at work where they dropped it off to inside the parking garage to plug it in before signing. But it wasn't exactly a "test drive" and things could be different now.

 

[rtz]

Why isn't Tesla scaling up right now? What is the slowest part about the assembly line or where or what is the bottleneck? Are they still supply limited by an item? How are they ever going to turn the line up to 1 car a minute? How about when Model X starts and dilutes or reduces Model S output? Or is it on a totally separate line?