Tracking P85D delivery thread

[skilly]

FWIW, my DS had this paperwork ready and waiting for me. It was in writing, to be installed at no charge when available, and he clearly stated I could also have a refund as well if I prefer.

This is very standard practice in the automotive industry. Its called a due bill. What was none standard is the option that they offered - most just delay delivery.

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This car lost the "best car ever made" title during my road trip when I had to sleep in a McDonald's parking lot from 3 am to 6 am due to unexpectedly having to hit every supercharging station on the east coast.

Yes. That really happened.

why are you spending three hours at a McDonalds because of a Super Charging station - was it backed up with 100s of P85Ds trying to get a charge? Seriously - those two statements don't go together without an explanation.

 

[Andyw2100]

I honestly doubt it's that much. It seems Tesla backed off of it's xmas eve and xmas day deliveries. I expect this weekend to be big for deliveries, though.

I'm not so sure about that, at least as far as one of my DSs is concerned. When I spoke to him and exchanged email with him today it sounded like he had at least four or five delivery appointments scheduled, in addition to my delivery by truck.

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This car lost the "best car ever made" title during my road trip when I had to sleep in a McDonald's parking lot from 3 am to 6 am due to unexpectedly having to hit every supercharging station on the east coast.

Yes. That really happened.

Why are you spending three hours at a McDonalds because of a Super Charging station - was it backed up with 100s of P85Ds trying to get a charge? Seriously - those two statements don't go together without an explanation.

I'm interested in hearing what happened to Rice390, but I can imagine any number of reasonable scenarios that would cause this. He could have gotten somewhere too late to check in to a hotel, or so late that he decided it didn't make sense to spend the money on a hotel if he had to do something very early the next morning anyway. (Who wants to spend the money for a "night" in a hotel when with checking in and checking out he would have had two and a half hours tops?)

Or perhaps he just couldn't show up at the friends' or relatives' house he was going to stay at in the middle of the night, when his plans had called for him to get there in the evening the night before.

Lots of possibilities that don't involve hundreds of P85Ds at superchargers.

 

[AWDtsla]

I'm not so sure about that, at least as far as one of my DSs is concerned. When I spoke to him and exchanged email with him today it sounded like he had at least four or five delivery appointments scheduled, in addition to my delivery by truck.

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I'm interested in hearing what happened to Rice390, but I can imagine any number of reasonable scenarios that would cause this. He could have gotten somewhere too late to check in to a hotel, or so late that he decided it didn't make sense to spend the money on a hotel if he had to do something very early the next morning anyway. (Who wants to spend the money for a "night" in a hotel when with checking in and checking out he would have had two and a half hours tops?)

Or perhaps he just couldn't show up at the friends' or relatives' house he was going to stay at in the middle of the night, when his plans had called for him to get there in the evening the night before.

Lots of possibilities that don't involve hundreds of P85Ds at superchargers.

His car clearly is using way more power than it should. But given the Wh/mile posted that's something like 20 minutes more at a supercharger per stop.

 

[Rice390]

why are you spending three hours at a McDonalds because of a Super Charging station - was it backed up with 100s of P85Ds trying to get a charge? Seriously - those two statements don't go together without an explanation.

I planned for a 10-12 hour trip. It took 18 because I had to stop at every supercharging station that was out of my way... hence why my trip took me well into the wee hours of the night. But hey Elon says its worth it.

Not sure how you came to the 100s of p85d theory. The nap in the McDonald's parking lot was due to the trip going longer than expected, the supercharger was in the parking lot. Andy had 10 other theories that made sense, one of which was right (too late for a hotel to make sense).

To AWDtesla - it's not the extra time actually plugged in that matters. It's the complete interruption of all progress by getting off the highway, plugging in, getting sidetracked by any convenient stores or bathrooms. It's having to take different routes to make sure you can hit as many superchargers as possible because you can't make a 180 mile stretch. Refcharging 90 miles (50% of my battery) only takes 15 minutes - that's not what leads to the added time. Having to get off the highway every hour or so makes these trips painfully long.

 

[mdlambert]

Concerned

His car clearly is using way more power than it should. But given the Wh/mile posted that's something like 20 minutes more at a supercharger per stop.

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

 

[ArtInCT]

I honestly doubt it's that much. It seems Tesla backed off of it's xmas eve and xmas day deliveries. I expect this weekend to be big for deliveries, though.

I dropped by the Milford, CT SC on the 24th, and they were doing several P85D deliveries. There were a slew of P85D's that had just arrived and were being moved inside the SC for prep. We got to see, in the rain, my favorite color combo which is the Grey with Tan Interior, 21" grey wheels and black headliner and matte obeche wood. A P85D no less. There looks to be a real lot of deliveries to be made in the days after Xmas.

 

[randompersonx]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

{I haven't yet taken delivery yet), but some advice anyway) - Make sure the DS charges it to 100%. Drive the speed limit using cruise control. If it's mostly highway, I think you would make it -- but I also suggest making your concerns very clear with your DS before you arrive to make sure they do actually charge to 100%.

While the reduced range is clearly an issue, being that you (and I) are in Florida, it will be less of an issue for us than for others here because we do not have to run heat (which is very inefficient).

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I dropped by the Milford, CT SC on the 24th, and they were doing several P85D deliveries. There were a slew of P85D's that had just arrived and were being moved inside the SC for prep. We got to see, in the rain, my favorite color combo which is the Grey with Tan Interior, 21" grey wheels and black headliner and matte obeche wood. A P85D no less. There looks to be a real lot of deliveries to be made in the days after Xmas.

That's my point. My car made it in to Dania Beach on the 24th, along with another 30-45 more cars (probably mostly P85D's). They won't deliver it until December 26. Last week I asked about a December 25 deliveries since others had posted about it, and the DS said they were not doing deliveries that day, but MIGHT do some on December 24.

I bet they are busy working on prepping a bunch of cars today, though.

 

[Rice390]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

You should be completely fine. Make sure you keep it at cruise control at 60 or under. Sport mode obviously. Range mode on. Don't do any launches out of the gate. Wait until you are home.

You should be able to average 380 wh/mi and roll into your destination with 30 miles to spare. I really wouldn't worry at all if you stay under those conditions. Enjoy your purchase!

Merry xmas everybody. I'm heading out of the country for 10 days. I know I've been negative, but I'm still optimistic that tesla will remedy this situation eventually. The "shock" factor is wearing off, and now it's a patience game...which I can certainly handle better.

 

[hobbes]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

From what others reported, cars delivered are sometimes not fully charged. So I would make sure my delivery specialist knows about your long drive home so you´ll have enough juice in the battery. DISCLAIMER: no first hand experience (unfortunately), so jealous! Have fun with the car.

 

[svp6]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

It seems like the people with most experience on longer drives (Rice390 and wk057) both think you can provided you start full charge. wk057 did a 204 mi trip yesterday that included some 50 miles at 79 mph, but in reasonably good weather.

 

[Dbitter1]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

I wish I had time since I got mine to drain the battery - I routinely travel between my company offices at ~210 mi... even with some fluff for heat, it was a large consideration in car selection to make it in a single shot... that only a Tesla could make. I am now slightly more concerned, but at least I have two SCs between the two.

I assume you also saw P85D range and highway battery performance

But you wanted reassurance... so here goes: The range is less than we expect, but it isn't like we bought a Leaf/Volt*/Prius*. Don't do a launch, as tempting as it is (I couldn't resist for more than 2 blocks from the dealer, that is why I sprung for the P model) - that KILLS the battery (but feels damn awesome!). Tell your DS you need it charged full (not 85%). Stay under the speed limit, remember power usage is exponential with speed. You should be fine. The car comes with a J1772 charger adapter (as well as the normal NEMA 14-50)... so look on Plugshare or the like for a Plan B (It may cost $10-20 to fill it up some to buy some assurance, but most of the (paid L2/L3) stations have a decent charge rate). Make sure your DS explains the "range mode" option which shuts off most of the extraneous electrical stuff.

Please let us know how you did! And once you have her home and charged, enjoy the ride! I'm thinking of selling tickets to my "own personal roller coaster"...

* And expect to make it on electric alone

 

[LetsGoFast]

I'll be doing 160 miles tomorrow bringing my car home from Raleigh! So long as they really do tune things later, I'm not at all stressed about the range. Had I been given a choice of car now, range later or waiting until everything was set, my decision would have taken like 2 seconds.

 

[Cottonwood]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

The advice from others is all good; be careful and you should be fine. As one more safety net, look up alternatives on Plugshare, the Tesla "find us" page, and on Florida Tesla Enthusiasts (FTE) club sign-up page

I see Naples as your location. How can you be 180 miles from delivery to destination?

 

[mdlambert]

The advice from others is all good; be careful and you should be fine. As one more safety net, look up alternatives on Plugshare, the Tesla "find us" page, and on Florida Tesla Enthusiasts (FTE) club sign-up page

I see Naples as your location. How can you be 180 miles from delivery to destination?

I am switching out the wheels, and installing 21" HRE P104s. So, I will pick up the car in Dania Beach, drive down to Wheels Boutique in Miami, swap tires, then home to Naples. Using Google map estimates, it's 156 miles. I used 180 as a safety measure. I should be good, assuming the car is close to fully charged when delivered. I will also, based on everyones advice, resist testing the performance. I also loaded the Plugshare app on my iPhone. (another good piece of advice )

Thanks to all for responding

 

[GonzoDad]

LetsGoFast, I hope you have better weather than I did -- six hours in the pouring rain to/from Raleigh yesterday to get this baby home in time for Christmas! Amazing car, so worth the wait! Big thanks to Jerome and the Raleigh DS team (Shannon and Martha) for making it happen!

Those concerned about range on the return, be sure your DS does a full "trip" charge vs the "daily" 85%. Mine did, and although I probably could have made the 215 mile return, for good measure I stopped at the Burlington Super Charger about 50 miles outside of Raleigh. Great location btw, right next to a nice outdoor shopping area off of I-40.

 

[lsnetman]

Well, after a great deal of teeth grinding, I'm going to cancel my order. I'm trying to be rational, yet I know that part of the decision involves some rationalization. So be it. I have a Model S, equipped just the way I want, just 2-1/2 months old. It is autopilot equipped and all the little kinks are ironed out. Even before all the snafu's it was a stretch to justify the $40k hit to trade up. Now with the seats, the charge issues, it's even more of a stretch. If I didn't already have a Model S it would be different, but as exciting as that launch might be, it's not worth it for me now. I wish all you early adopters nothing but smooth roads and extended battery life. I'm going to wait.

 

[crazybrit]

Can someone with real D experience reassure me ? I pick up my D on Monday, and will have to drive approximately 180 miles, with no charging stations in-between, from the service center to my home. With all the discussion on poor range, I am now more than a little nervous about making it.

I don't have a D, but I do have a lot of experience getting the most range I can from a P in subzero weather in high winds. This is what I do. Take it very easy at the beginning. Get onto the freeway and drive under the speed limit. Pull up the energy graph on one panel, and the nav in the other. The nav tells you the distance to go, and the energy graph gives a prediction of range. If you use the 15 mile average first, then bump it out to a 30 mile average once you have enough steady state data. Watch for changes in trends on the graph. If they are not due to hills, then the wind probably changed. Once you have confidence in the conditions, bump up your speed until the projected range plus a buffer is close to your destination miles. I have been able to predict my arival down to 2 miles of accuracy from 100 miles out. The buffer you use is entirely up to you. I have used as little as 5 miles!

It sounds complicated, but really it isn't.

 

[Cottonwood]

I am switching out the wheels, and installing 21" HRE P104s. So, I will pick up the car in Dania Beach, drive down to Wheels Boutique in Miami, swap tires, then home to Naples. Using Google map estimates, it's 156 miles. I used 180 as a safety measure. I should be good, assuming the car is close to fully charged when delivered. I will also, based on everyones advice, resist testing the performance. I also loaded the Plugshare app on my iPhone. (another good piece of advice )

Thanks to all for responding

You should be fine! Have fun. For that route a little insurance would be to drive US-41. It is 14 miles shorter and lower average speeds, a double win. On top of that, there is a 72-Amp HPWC at GEM REMOTES on the way into Naples.

Just remember that to do full force launches, you will need more than 50% in the battery. I might be tempted to drive on to the Fort Meyers Supercharger, top up, and do several launches on the way home from the Supercharger. Have lots of fun!

 

[andrewket]

Well, after a great deal of teeth grinding, I'm going to cancel my order. I'm trying to be rational, yet I know that part of the decision involves some rationalization. So be it. I have a Model S, equipped just the way I want, just 2-1/2 months old. It is autopilot equipped and all the little kinks are ironed out. Even before all the snafu's it was a stretch to justify the $40k hit to trade up. Now with the seats, the charge issues, it's even more of a stretch. If I didn't already have a Model S it would be different, but as exciting as that launch might be, it's not worth it for me now. I wish all you early adopters nothing but smooth roads and extended battery life. I'm going to wait.

If I had a P85+ with autopilot I think I would wait, too.

 

[andrewket]

Greetings from Florida.