Traded Model 3 for new Model Y

[kpanda17]

Maybe due to longer and faster towing trips in the usa?
Usa trailer

Europe trailer

Usa likes them big

 

[JayPaul]

Maybe due to longer and faster towing trips in the usa?
Usa trailer

Europe trailer


Usa likes them big

I think it is because of speed, how quickly a vehicle towing can get up to speed, and how safely a vehicle can reduces speed while towing.

The actual size/weight of US trailers/campers shouldn't affect the rating. You would just be limited in what you can tow. So, if the TM3 was rated at 3k lbs, you would only be able to legally tow 3k lbs (assuming you do not exceed the other weight limits). There may be less options of trailers you can buy here, but the rating would still remain the same.

I do think that Europe is a little too loose with their tow ratings. There are vehicles that do not have the motor to get up to appropriate speeds (think highway merging), nor the wheelbase and weight to properly stop during an emergency.

I am adding trailer brakes to my trailer, just for the purposes of panic stopping.

 

[melvladimir]

I do think that Europe is a little too loose with their tow ratings. There are vehicles that do not have the motor to get up to appropriate speeds (think highway merging), nor the wheelbase and weight to properly stop during an emergency.

There are several limitation:
1. The weight of the trailer. If it is more than 750kg (1650lb) you have to have BE driver's license (or CE, for trucks and big VANs)
2. The towing weight of the vehicle should not be exceeded
3. Speed limit for towing - 80 km/h (50 mph)

 

[JayPaul]

There are several limitation:
1. The weight of the trailer. If it is more than 750kg (1650lb) you have to have BE driver's license (or CE, for trucks and big VANs)
2. The towing weight of the vehicle should not be exceeded
3. Speed limit for towing - 80 km/h (50 mph)

I am speaking specifically about number 2 on your list... In the US many vehicles including the TM3 do NOT have a legal tow rating, while in Europe they do. I think a lot of Europe is a little loose on this rating...

Which relating it back to this topic, here in the US, a move from TM3 to a TMY includes the legal ability to actually tow...

 

[BigNick]

Its hundreds of lbs lighter with a lower center of gravity so pretty sure it just plain handles better than the Model Y.

Physics. It's the law.

 

[S&B's M3]

How many miles

Carvana offered $25,960 and Tesla's firm price was $28,800. Hope that gives you some guidance.

Just curious, but how many miles were on your 2019. I've been thinking of a new Y, I have 14K on mine with AP (only)..

 

[melvladimir]

TM3 do NOT have a legal tow rating

Nothing at all?! Even small ones like ~700lb?

 

[AZAV8R]

Other than unavoidable disability type issues, M3 being too low to get in and out of means you need to take better care of your health. If you can't get in and out of a normal car without so much trouble that you consider buying a higher vehicle, then you have lost the basic human capability of movement that everyone should strive to maintain. I see this tendency in many aspects of peoples lives. Overweight and out of shape....just take medicine to help keep you alive rather than take care of yourself. Voluntary disability to due overeating and lack of movement is an out of control epidemic in our country. Move more. Eat less. Live longer. You will be able to get in and out of any car very easily.

I'm 5'9" 155# and at 62, have zero issues in/out of my M3. That said, your "PSA" post was cold, unwarranted and doesn't belong in this thread. Did it make you feel better?

 

[JayPaul]

Nothing at all?! Even small ones like ~700lb?

Not here in the US... It does in Europe...

Europe, page 92, up to 55kg tongue weight, up to 1,000 kg with trailer brakes. You even have tow mode.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_is/Owners_Manual.pdf

US, that section is missing...

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/Owners_Manual.pdf

 

[RonB]

S&B - The car had 36,000 miles.

AZAV8R - Agree withy your comments 100%. His post was uncalled for and should be removed.

 

[vegetaban]

I may trade my 3 for a cybertruck, but will more likely keep using the 3 as my commuter and the cybertruck for fun and housework.

 

[beachsideev]

I wanted a my for the larger usable cargo space but I couldn't get over the poor visibility out the passenger side and rear. I got another m3 instead.

 

[kpanda17]

I think the M3 paired with a CT is the best combo in the EV industry.
vs Kia EV9 and Ioniq 5N

 

[Hiline]

The car had FSD. It was a nice feature but I do enjoy hands on driving lol. On a long trip I may do the month by month of FSD or the Enhanced Autopilot for $100 per month on a yearly basis.

I think you could've easily got a few thousand dollars more with a private sale. A 2019 M3LR with FSD should sell for around $35k.

 

[CapoD2T]

I am 65 years of age, and my other car is a Lotus Elise, so the M3 is a doddle to get in and out of! I'd not mind the utility of a Y in some cases, though.